Monday 14 June 2010

Megan's Mannequin



Quickly cobbled this one together because I'm being so damn slow with other posts with more writing in them (this kind of post seem to flow pretty fast so wanted to get one out after some minor 'distractions' and general burnout). I thought this new shoot and video from Interview Magazine with Megan Fox was interesting enough to post quickly (in the interview some brief mentioning of them being puppets/tools for the Hollywood machine), doesn't need much elaboration featuring the kind of mannequin programming (this mannequin was apparently created specifically in her likeness by the way) showing her in a frozen (mannequin/statue-like) possible trance state on the bed with it and other scenes (I think this post has some more detail on mannequins, which is a basic kind of hypnotic 'freeze' command anyway). Note her and the mannequin in a duality checkerboard floor corridor which she drags the mannequin down to kill it. The final scene involves her symbolically killing herself (possibly killing an alter or something) via the mannequin by strangling and gagging it with her hand. This all goes along with the narrative they have created for her in the media with quotes from her saying that she has "mental problems" and her tattoos and such that may point to her potentially being Monarch programmed. [Edit: Fixed video]
The music going along with the video was clearly chosen for its MK/mind control lyrics, the track titled 'Master's Hands' by French actress/singer Charlotte Gainsbourg (the woman from Antichrist, with themes of trauma/dissociation/hypnosis/explicit sex etc), i.e."Pull my strings and cut my rope, Rattle my frame and shatter my ghost, And if I can't get back in line, They're gonna break me down...".








The shoot is the work of Illuminist/celebrity/fashion photographer Craig McDean, who has photographed many others (see this link for some of his portfolio), some have featured in this blog like the above Rachel Weisz (+ husband and child) shot. One from a typically dualistic shoot of kabbalistic (former?) slave Madonna below.

Below is another one by him of the MK half of the Olsen Twins, Mary-Kate in an Interview Magazine shoot. Just to make things more relevant to the post, Megan's first film role, after being strictly raised in Oak Ridge, Tennesse (lots of military stuff/history going on there, always a clue, the National Laboratory is listed in Deeper Insights Illuminati Formula as being involved in mind control/genetic Monarch research) by strict Catholic parents and the usual training for performance from age 5 and modeling by age 13, was in an MK and Ashley movie 'Holiday in the Sun' at age 16 (still from it below, in her stereotypical early role).
To round off this short post (I have already covered Jennifer's Body briefly in older posts + other stuff to do with her like the tattoos, see link near start; her new tattoo by the way 'Those who danced were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.' seems to come from some relatively unheard of poet Angela Monet, as someone interestingly noted in the comments the direct quote can be found in David Icke's 'Tales from the Time Loop' from years back) her more recent films have been relatively occult themed like 'Jennifer's Body' which I have only recently watched. She enters some kind of dissociative state while watching a band in her small town of 'Devil's Kettle' where a fire breaks out and is taken by the band in their van in this 'out of it' state, and is then sacrificed in a Satanic ritual by them wanting to make it big (an exaggeration of what bands have to do to make it big in reality, for the most part sell out to the music corporate/Illuminist overlords) and she becomes possessed by a succubus demon because she was not a virgin, and her friend Amanda Seyfried kills her (not worth covering in detail in my opinion, don't want to make this post longer than it has to be).






Butterfly motifs (also a symbol of female sexuality and transformation which I have mentioned in the past) and obviously plenty of occult themes are prevalent throughout. Some of the flashbacks to Megan and Amanda's character childhoods have more Monarch symbolism (Amanda's character, who as an adult always wears butterfly earrings and such, is covered in more butterfly print; she will probably pop up in some future post and will post some of her symbolic shoots etc) with barbie dolls, some twinning programming suggestions (at one point one sucks the other's blood or something) and other things also.

Her most current film is Jonah Hex, which is a loosely occult themed Western comic-book adaptation where she plays a prostitute Lilah who has spent her life in a brothel, a typical role. Perhaps more pertinent to Monarchs is her role alongside Mickey Rourke and Bill Murray in 'Passion Play' which she plays a "caged circus freak with wings", which is "a magical-realist drama in which Fox’s character sprouts wings at puberty and is drafted into a traveling circus" (from Interview piece). Below is a leaked camera phone photo from the set of Passion Play trapped in her glass box/cage, the exposed photo apparently embarrassed and infuriated her in a similar way to her character on display in the actual film is supposed to feel.

Anyway, future posts are forthcoming but I am still going at a leisurely pace (though I put this one together in like 1 hour today so I'm not exactly consistent), the Charlotte Lewis/Golden Child post is so delayed that it doesn't seem relevant anymore but will put it up soon anyway (there is some interesting stuff in it).


Edit [June 2011]: No one will probably see this as this post is like a year old (if anyone does, I do plan on posting again later this year by the way) but here is a photo from late April 2011 of Megan with her current husband (slave/handler?) Brian Austin Green donning an Illuminati T-shirt going for a pizza at Lucifers.

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Lori said...

oh yeah, in the adult swim "bumps' as they call them, they have now added those horns in the background...they sound like bees! how pesky

something weird just happened now but im not going to say...

Lori said...

ok comment isnt showing up. something weird just happened but im not going to write it

the adult swim "bump" have those horns on in the background now, sounds like bees...

pesky!

t said...

@lori

to be honest, your constant random ramblings make it sound like you've been smoking pot or something! however, i do remember a while back when you mentioned the "strawberries" thing, i watched a couple of craig ferguson shows and the word was mentioned which really did freak me out...i was like "ohmygod! that lori girl is telling the truth!" it did seem like the word was purposely thrown in there, too. it was kind of random. BUT how do we really know that your background was strawberries before that programme was aired? or that your screen name has always been 'poison'? you could be making it all up.....

Benjamin S said...

Hello people, thought I should drop in with a quick comment. I've been afk the past few days so as always thanks for keeping things alive with some interesting comments, links and healthy debate.

Canada's 'MuchMusic Video Awards' was pretty blatant btw, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1288239/MuchMusic-Miley-Cyrus-manages-raunch-Katy-Perry-MuchMusic-Video-Awards.html, can see more in the videos (camera starts off in Miley's voodoo performance focused on one of those disembodied doll's heads with black eyes and cat whiskers, she comes out of something that looks like a pyramidish which opens into a white egg, her inside with arms tied wearing white), pretty depressing, feel sorry for all the kids at it (performing and in the audience).

New posts up soon, still getting my shit together obviously. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

does DIDDY have an agenda here or is he really just a nice guy trying to encourage people to be positive? watch the video


www.diddyblog.com

Anonymous said...

Lori- please make a blog. Pretty please?

I know what you're talking about with adult swim. I would like to discuss it further but not here on Ben's blog.

I believe adult swim is a CIA psyop along with other childrens programming networks. They act like they're anti mainstream but there are a lot of clues that they're part of a sinister agenda. Tim and Eric especially.

Please.

Write a blog.

Anonymous said...

Its ok to be paranoid lol to an extent I guess. But not excessively so that it drives you mad! Actually all of my fave films are ones such as " The Game", " The wizard of Oz" " Eyes wide shut" etc. I used to be obsessed with Marylin Monroe and mirrors and Im often called a kitten, butterfly etc by my partner. Im very keen to visit the Harry potter theme park in the USA. My movements to an extent are controlled. And my own dad says rather odd things trigger words that scare the heck out of me. It starts with government I strongly suspect. Im not saying Im an MK ultra. But it effects many people to a certain extent. The symbolism isnt always literal, and not every person with a butterfly tattoo has been traumatised and so on. Think one has to be careful not to generalise. Yu really can be aware that youre part of this from a very young age, doesnt always mean you will talk about it however. But when you want to fight back then you will.



Inregards to the negative backlash only you can trust your own experience! I dont think its as clear cut as what people like Cisco went through you will have gone through however, and I am not sure why people need to read about the Illuminati to know they exist or why they need to read about mind control for MK ultras to know how its done. There isnt one rule for all. Its individual experiences. Also this site forgets the thousands of male celebrities who are MKed and used as sex slaves. It doesnt show 100s of naked photos of them I wonder why. Please dont forget the stuff men go through its as valid as women, and often also starts in childhood, teens being messed with.



Yes celebrities are a huge distraction from the dying masses and politics. And fill out newspaper stands just so we dont do something useful and start helping the people who really need our help which is not people like Mariah Carey ( well known for being entirely controlled by her first husband) .

Lori said...

hi

this was my myspace page that has the strawberries background (but it was a different strawberry background) i love strawberries and have a tattoo of one on my ankle..

anyways, yes anonymous and i am going to start working on my blog which will just focus on the things i have experienced...

who knows, maybe adult swim is using those annoying world cup horns to mess with US? this site? you know??? they have it on the background on ALL OF THEIR BUMPS, aka commercials!!!

i have been using the name poison for almost 3 years now and since then is when i started noticing those things...

Lori said...

sorry here:

http://www.myspace.com/fawnabella

also, its true this site seems to forget that there are alot of males that have been abused too. its not just all the pretty females. im sorry if i sound wrong that i said that. i dont want it to be as if we are gawking as one poster put it...

i was going to put up an interview where katy perry said she was witness to someone who jumped or fell out of a building and was killed in front of her...let me find it...and i will post it. she said it left her scarred or traumatized or something.

Anonymous said...

"Also this site forgets the thousands of male celebrities who are MKed and used as sex slaves. It doesnt show 100s of naked photos of them I wonder why."
This site also seems to have turned into MK porn for a lot of young guys who obviously get off on girls getting traumatized. :/

Lori said...

ok:

http://perezhilton.com/2010-06-20-katy-perry-and-rihanna-best-friends-forever#respond

around 3 minutes she talks about seeing a man "splatter on the ground" however she makes light of it in a way? is it because...im thinking too much into it.

she also talks about wanting more kittens and she loves kittens..

im sorry to say, but she is really annoying tho...

anyways...no one in the comments section even said how horrific seeing a man jump to his death could be...geez, even the interviewer did not say anything!???

Anonymous said...

This is a really good point about the emphasis on women. And Lori, your comments on Katy Perry are really similar to what I've been wondering. The stuff she's been saying lately have been really blatant. One of my main questions about her is about her new, very high profile relationship with Brand. What is his role exactly? Handler? Is he MKed too? Each other's handlers? What is the difference between someone who is a handler and someone who is MK'd? He says stuff in interviews that seems really like he's conscious of things. But it's confusing.

--jl

Anonymous said...

Like also, Katy used to have a handler called Markus but they don't seem to spend time together anymore and he doesn't want her to get married, and I read somewhere that she is doing coke now and she's being called Strawberry Snort 'em by the gossip sites. I wonder if this is true. Because Brand is not supposed to take drugs. If he is NA, wouldn't he want to handle someone else that doesn't have coke around? He does TM too. That must mean something.

--jl

Lori said...

i dont really know enough about russel brand to come up with what i think. i think he might be her handler, but she is in love with him. it seems handlers are set up in peoples lives to monitor them somehow, but im not so sure myself how it works either? do they create situations for them or do they hold the laptop with all the codes? anyone? russel does wear a skull ring alot, even tho it is fashionable...

i just know something strange too, a while ago i was in this parody youtube video of a britney spears, "its britney bitch"...that song. its on youtube....ron jeremy was in it too and so was this other girl. well i remember seeing commercials for the upcoming MTV music awards, the one where they staged britneys comeback..anyways russel asked britney if she knew his last name and she said, "Brown?" he was like, no....

i know i sound stupid saying this, but my last name is brown, and this was around the time where i was experiencing lots of strange things....

ha! but why would britney get confused and say "Brown?" instead of "Brand" also like i said i was in a parody of her song..

i dont know...i dont think im that special...its just one of those weird things....

but then that brings us back to the question, do you think such celebs who may have been MK'd come here? someone like britney would not have access to this site, dont you think? their handlers would keep them busy...or monitor or lock up what they see on the internet, and they might have them read the humiliating, negative comments towards them.

sometimes photo ops like the miley/perez ones are set up, to break them so to speak. i notice on another site were pictures of demi lovato. i learned more about demi lovato thanks to donny. they were bikini pics of her but they make a big deal because she is 17.

however, they were sexualizing her, well the blog author was. the comments were not so nice...

sometimes i do feel silly for posting stuff and info about myself on such a site like this, but i dont like to live in paranoia...i just want to share thoughts, experiences, learn more, etc...

Lori said...

another thing i would like to read about is an interpretation of her 'california girls' video. im sure we can all read into the video, such as katy perry basically being a "pawn" she is also in a candyland world "seems to be a dissaciative state of mind, also sexualizing with the lick my popsicle and the cupcake bras etc and her bra similar to the lady gaga gun bra, she has one that spurts out whipped cream...

i hear my neice singing this song and im thinking, "please do not sing those songs!" she sings black eyed peas and kesha and all of those mindless music...

Anonymous said...

Do I smell some reprogramming here?

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2010/06/21/chris_klein_gets_his_rehab_on_in_utah.php

C.

Anonymous said...

Thanks yes,i agree not that im offended by half naked photos of ladies but its abit much, hmm some half naked men please? kidding! but it would be nice to have a fairer view gender wise on here. i believe my father was my handler and my boyf is now my handler. i think the handler has the dominant role but it can work both ways actually, as to triggering and programming each other. but thats just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

i rarely watch tv it drives me nuts! and dont tend to look at adverts and such like very often, rarely watch music videos and dont read newspapers. it used to put me into bad moods and its one way of avoiding triggers etc.

skrambo said...

"I believe adult swim is a CIA psyop along with other childrens programming networks. They act like they're anti mainstream but there are a lot of clues that they're part of a sinister agenda. Tim and Eric especially."

I think Tim and Eric is the only funny show left on TV. But that's just me. Even though I have spotted tons of MK themes on their show, I don't think they as individuals have anything to do with that. They're mocking TV in general, which I feel is somewhat against the MK agenda. Their form of comedy is really brutal, and maybe I'm a horrible person for thinking it's really funny and being able to relate to it.

LVB said...

Whoever said the "Candyland" comment about Kay Perry is dead on.

Her arrival at the award show (that Ben mentioned) in the ice cream truck seems highly symbolic, to me anyway.

It is the most common cliche for pedophiles to lure children into their sexual crimes using candy or ice cream, and I think this is a very thinly disguised symbol in Katy Perry's marketing.

What is the entire music business doing, if not luring children into sexual ideas and activity which is highly inappropriate, using "sweets" as bait?

over analyzing said...

C. why do you always leave these links without any sort of input or thought into it, you just leave these links. its like you spend all day scouring what you can find on the internet and leave them here. any input? i see, maybe chris klein is getting reprogrammed, but also, he could just be going to rehab. i know chris klein used to date katie holmes, and he resembles keanu reeves. what else about him syndicates programming? im sorry im not doubtful this takes place, but a little feedback might help..???

Lori______ said...

LVB- i said that about the katy perry video. i read a very good comment before where someone broke apart her style to intriguing an audience compared to one of lady gagas. as we all know, the whole world is in love with lady gaga!!!

ugh!!!

Lori said...

also, what is a CIA psyop? i would like to hear more about [adult swim] since i myself watch it and go to the forums and all that...

Donny said...

Bastard children! why are you ignoring me! so you think my info is not of value huh? well then why don't you keep on idolizing Ben like always.

Watch damn it!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yY-VJY9p-7M

Lori said...

whoa! hey donny i did watch your hey arnold video...the weird thing is, i have the simpsons on, so afterwards, bart asked this kid, whats your name? the kid replied, "Donny" bart was then like, "yOUR donny?"

it was a strange coincendence if you will...

something strange happened last night, sort of like this but im not going to say what happened HA but it was very weird "coincedence"

Lori said...

AAHH!! i said 'Hey Donny" like Hey Arnold..

ok im just freaking myself out now!??! HA anyways...

Donny said...

Umm that is strange! Are you under mind control now?

Lori said...

no but something weird to i want to mention, just for the sake of it, in this episode it also said 'poison' in it...

hmm....

they are complaining about the vuvulula horn buzzing on the adult swim forums...haha weird

Anonymous said...

lori are you making this stuff up??!?! seriously? just hilarious...this whole blog is so entertaining

Anonymous said...

HEY DONNY!!!!! lmao

ben always said that 'they' have a sense of humour

Anonymous said...

@overanalysing

i always thought that too, C does nothing apart from post rubbish links!

@lori

what you need to know about russell brand is that up until he met katy perry he was a complete and utter man whore, don't be surprised if it turns out he has aids. also had serious drug problems (i think!? my memory sucks). quite an addictive personality he's got, this seems to be common with mk victims? i used to be friends with this guy who used to be in a boy band and he was abnormally addicted to sex! (yes it is possible lol) he was so sleazy and loved himself so much, don't even ask me why i was friends with him...he used to ask me to get naked on webcam for him all the time...i could tell you more about him but i daren't

Donny said...

Fuck you dude calling me lame how immature.
You like to mess with me because you just can't face the fact that I'm exposing more then Ben is at the moment.

Lori said...

i believe it is good to have a sense of humour about things or we would all become bitter restless souls...i know sometimes the things i write are a little kooky, but at least i am sharing them rather than just shrugging them off like, "neh, its just a coincedence..."

i think ben or someone should go more into the male programming, because this does have alot of posts about females, but in order to understand more (such as the Russell Brand or the boy band members and all that) i think it would help give a broader perspective...

we shouldnt be intimidated to find out things, or feel bad for wanting to know things either, or for sharing stories or incidents we have been through...

skrambo said...

"Fuck you dude calling me lame how immature.
You like to mess with me because you just can't face the fact that I'm exposing more then Ben is at the moment."

You know what, man? You're not doing anything to help this blog. You might as well leave. Your constant defensive bullshit is getting on everyone's nerves. It's not cute, it's not getting anyone to visit your blog, and I gave you a chance in the hopes that you would stop bringing your bullshit here. Stop. Seriously. And saying Lori is "mind-controlled" because she's aware of Synchronicity (at least, that's what she seems to be experiencing to me) is completely false. Sure, it's dissociative, but not all dissociation is mind control. She visits sites like this one every day, it's safe to say she's not MK'd.

And when ben says "they have a sense of humor", he means in the overt symbolism, the sort of laughter which accompanies keeping someone in the dark, not the sort of laughter which accompanies a funny joke.

Donny said...

Yeah go ahead leave me in the dark that is what you guys do all of the time anyway.
The only one bullshitting here is you Tommy and everybody else at this idolization blog!
You guys are missing out on every single god damn subject I'm exposing all because you think just because I am 15 I am not as superior as you!!!!!!!

skrambo said...

Please explain how I'm bullshitting. I don't see it. Nobody here idolizes Ben. Given the subject matter, I don't think anyone here is particularly into playing follow the leader.

We're missing out on the subjects you're exposing because you're screaming at us. Constantly. Just because you have the loudest voice doesn't mean anyone with a brain is going to pay attention. I'm not against what you write about, I"m against how you're acting like a child.

Donny said...

Acting like a child? look who's talking bra.
That's not even the point the point is you didn't even comment on my posts when I was nice to you guys.

skrambo said...

Is that our fault? No. It's your fault for not writing in a way that is appealing to more people. It's your problem, you deal with it.

LVB said...

Amen to every word of that, Tommy, and thank you.

I haven't seen Donny say anything remotely positive, friendly or humorous (in what several weeks now?) about anything or anyone but himself - which generally has everything to do with whether or not people like you (btw) and/or have any interest in what anyone might have to say about any subject.

As I said before, the "me me me" bullsh!t is way beyond tiresome at this point, for all of us who are moderately intelligent and well adjusted people, regardless of age btw.

The only thing (and I do mean ONLY thing) that is being revealed there are the true colors of a selfish and truly self-absorbed mess of a human being, but as sad and pathetic as that may be, there are many such things and people in this world, and it is neither Ben's or any of the rest of our duty to put up with it, just to make a chronically offensive attention seeker feel better, or sell some crap.

Either that, or Ben IS Donny and is doing one hell of a compelling psych behavioral study for school and this is a supremely cruel
mindf-ck on us all - which would actually be quite funny, although no less annoying and repulsive in the meantime! lol

I'm kidding, of course, because even at a distance, I can tell a few things about Ben's kind and gracious character, and I have almost zero doubt that he would put us through such ruthless and inhumane torture. :)

In any event, Ben's patience and admirable tolerance level has only enabled and worsened the problem, which is too often exactly how things involving people with these behavioral disorders generally turn out.

I, for one, appeal to Ben (again) to proceed with the ban, seeing that his kindness and recent fair warning have not produced even the slightest improvement in this grossly inappropriate nonsense; including the suicidal sympathy ploy, insults and demands to Ben and pretty much everyone else, at one time or another. lol

This presence has had nothing but a negative effect on this place, which is so useful in our pursuit of greater knowledge and worthwhile discussions of these subjects of importance to us all.

It needs to stop, so that all of the good things that Pseudo is will cease to be diverted on a daily and very tedious basis, by this constantly whining pain in the arse.

Let him sell his "truth telling" and beg for attention elsewhere, preferably as far away from here as possible, being that we are all such terribly ignorant and uncaring folks. If that helps him feel better about leaving, I'll proudly wear that label as a badge of honor. lol

And, most importantly, we can then resume our mindless worship of the almighty Ben in sicophantic bliss and harmony.

Please, Ben, make it so - like immediately, if not sooner. :)

Aleksandra said...

@Donny It is sad how you now use what I wrote about you to attack and defend from others.
Couldn't you just like join the discussion?
Just write something on the topic everyone is talking about,that way you'll earn more respect and more people just might want to come to your blog.
Why don't you bomb Vigilant's site with your blog commercials? That's how this blog became popular anyway. I'm very interested to see what will he do with you. Since Ben doesn't want to ban you,makes me even think that he is enjoying this!just kidding,ofc.

Benjamin S said...

Tommy and LVB, there's not much I can do, I don't think you can ban users from accessing your blog (if you know of a way please let me know, I have heard of tools where you can ban an ip address though), I have been considering just deleting all of his comments which would be a chore but it may come to that (I have enough trouble keeping up with those daily 'buy viagra' spammers!). That commenter is probably cracking up even more at him after Donny thought his 'lmao' meant he was calling him lame or something (sometimes he just baffles me). But he is certainly 10x more annoying than he is amusing (and it has nothing to do with his age), maybe it is time to set aside some time for some manic deletion (I worry what that will do to him though so may just leave it, it is best just to ignore him; if he doesn't stop I will have no choice [which I keep saying... lol]).

Aleksandra, I have wondered why Donny fixates on me and my blog so much (probably has a lot to do with what you said in your earlier comment on the matter) when there are other blogs out there with a bigger audience for him to push his blog on, though Vigilant I think does more comment moderation than me so that might be a reason. Also, I probably misinterpreted what you were saying but when have I "bombed Vigilant's site with my blog commercials" which as you said is the reason for this blog's popularity (I haven't even left a comment there let alone pimp my blog, which I have not done anywhere). While I do appreciate your usually intelligible comments, I feel your point that this blog's popularity is purely down to Vigilant's site is a bit unfair and overstated (I know that a lot of people came across it independently of VC, but I'm sure some of my posts have been linked to in his comments/forums for obvious reasons, and I do greatly appreciate the many hits I get from his blog).

Anonymous said...

I don't like Megan Fox at all, but you are insane. There's no such thing as "mind control", and there's no proof of that the "illuminati" even exists. Stop believing everything you read on the internet.

LVB said...

anonymous

You are SO RIGHT!! I have known for years too that the CIA and MK-ULTRA, Dr.s Mengele and Ewen Cameron also do not exist and never did!! huge LOL

(cheers to ignorant bliss)

Kim said...

Looking through the comments, I think it would be a good idea to do something on the handler aspect of it all. I mean, we've seen several examples of what happens when a person's under the control but what about a person who is pulling the strings, so to speak.

Case in point, have you seen the most recent pictures of Amy Winehouse? She has done an amazing turn around since dating this new guy. I mean, in the pic she looks healthier than she has in the last few years. It makes you wonder what exactly "clicked" for her. Just my thoughts.

LVB said...

Hey Ben,

It's great to see that you're descended from the clouds to allow of a brief moment of your glory!! LOL

Any hints for us on what your next post(s) will involve?

Anonymous said...

I've got to give Donny credit for pointing out that this blog is a total cult of personality. Look at LVB switching to Donny now, who is a safer target for his repressed hostility now that women are too politically incorrect. I'll bet all that spite came in useful when he was employed in law enforcement. Donny may be immature but look at the culture of this blog, which is centered around parasitizing off of the traumatic experiences of strangers who most of the people here don't even have any respect for! It is only common sense that people like this will show up in that kind of environment. My suggestion is to up the maturity level and see how the audience changes. There is a reason why there are so many teenage boys here and it isn't the insightful commentary. And that isn't to say there is anything wrong with appreciating scantily clad women, not at all. But when that appreciation is combined with a complete lack of respect and empathy, well, you are going to draw some assholes. That is just common sense.

LVB said...

Kim

Very good point you make, although that info is much harder to come by, for fairly obvious reasons.

Here is an interesting pic from my Brief History of Stars Part 2, of a couple serious looking dudes who I noticed Gaga is rarely, if ever, seen without when offstage.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_d3Tzjzhz9V8/S_iityKAv6I/AAAAAAAAAnw/IjWyRkZ_dNM/s1600/gagahandlers7.jpg

People will obviously assume security/bodyguards, of course, which I think they probably are, but I get the feeling that many such guys have additional job functions which include more than just thumping on crazed "little monster" autograph hounds, if you know what I mean.

There were some other pics that someone posted here, I think on the Miley article, which show her (also with the same handler guys) from the back going up some stairs, and there are some pretty significant and noticeable bruise patterns on her very exposed (most of the time) butt cheeks, so this is intruiging to the discussion of handlers, as well.

It could be that she took a tumble during choreography rehearsals, or something to do with kinky sex acts, but I'm also remembering some stuff mentioned in Fritz's writings, about telltale bruise patterns on the a$$ area, either from manual beating or from cattle prod elecrical shock type traumas.

It's pretty odd, either way, and actually downright spooky. (the intelligence agency pun very much intended there) ;)

LVB said...

Oh Dear Lord,

Some folks just never get the point no matter how thoroughly one makes the effort to explain it. :)

There's nothing repressed here, anonymous sir/ma'am. I have a sort
of healthy habit of expressing what I feel, directly and often.

And it's quite clear that poor Donny begs like starving dog for any perceived "abuse" he might receive. And after long droughts of most of us ignoring all the foolishness (which ironically enrages him more than any sardonic comments) eventually, yes, being human this will get on a person's last nerve at times and put him in his place, and which is worth noting for accuracy, these are always far more factual and polite than the condescending name calling he dishes out so often and abusively that we all lose track of just how bad it really is.

I might suggest that you reconsider your own need and desire to be here, as well, if we are all as off-target and useless in our analyses as you seem to believe.

It also amuses me to no end to see the sterotypical ignorance of those who hate law enforcement or those mindless bad people in govt, yet when you've been robbed, beaten, had your child abducted or your home catches fire, this will suddenly turn into "where the hell are those useless govt people when we need them!!". lol

Such hypocrisy is more amusing than you can imagine to the people who will put themselves between a bullet or blazing fire and a total stranger who hates and resents their very existence.

Now that is some food for rational thought, if you're prepared to attempt that rational part. :)

Anonymous said...

I don't hate law enforcement. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about my opinions based on your own personal experiences, so if anyone is having a problem with objective reasoning, it isn't me. I am appreciative of those honest officers who are motivated by a true desire to serve their communities, however, there will always be those who take jobs with LE as a way to gain power for themselves, and those types are endlessly useful to the global police state.
And the reason I called your condescending name-calling "repressed" is because you quite obviously changed your tune about Tila when that was becoming unpopular, choosing to vent your personal problems on a safer scapegoat instead. Since most of the people here are thoroughly irritated with Donny's childishness, he is an easier target for abuse. And yes, in my opinion taking your hostility out on someone who is obviously unpopular already is a pretty cowardly thing to do.
At this point I am writing less for the blog's regular contributors and more for those anonymous people who are reading and want to learn about mind control. Because when they see people talking about how 17 year old girls are being branded with cattle prods, without any evidence whatsoever, accompanied by comments about how people "beg for abuse like a dog", well, I can see how they would get the impression that the vast majority of people interested in MK ultra are just sadistic perverts. And unfortunately, I think that sometimes this might actually be true. But there are still many mind control activists out there who are interested in the subject because of a genuine desire to help others and these are the people who I want to reach.

Anonymous said...

This idea about male handlers got me thinking and I saw a picture of Russell Brand and he was holding a gold watch like the ones hypnotists stereotypically use and was giving a creepy look in the camera. I think he was taunting people that think he is a handler. He seems like a really awful character. Anther time I saw him promoting his film at the premier and he was holding an egg the same way. He plays an MK'd rock star in his new film, which is a comedy. He directed a music video for the movie where he has a new wife and tries to feed her drugs that look like candy and it's just like Katy's new video is where she is in that candyland game as a playing piece. These people are really disgusting.

--jl

Aleksandra said...

@Ben No I did not mean that you have "bombed" VC with your blog commercials I just ment that you became more popular thanks to his references,ofc that does not mean that all the credit to your popularity goes ENTIRELY to VC.
And I am more then interested to know what the hell do you have against him?

Benjamin S said...

Who? VC? Nothing at all, what makes you say that? I said nothing negative about him here, the guy does a great job and deserves much of the plaudits that he gets. Apart from that one comment a while back that riled you I have had nothing but praise for him.

Donny said...
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Benjamin S said...

Donny mate sorry but I will be deleting all your future comments, you've had more than enough chances. Please just focus on your own blog and stop commenting here, thank you. If you keep commenting forcing me to delete again and again I will delete all of your previous comments too. I wait nervously for his inevitable backlash...

Newspaceman said...

LVB, this my friend needs analysed:

It also amuses me to no end to see the sterotypical ignorance of those who hate law enforcement or those mindless bad people in govt, yet when you've been robbed, beaten, had your child abducted or your home catches fire, this will suddenly turn into "where the hell are those useless govt people when we need them!!


If I was robbed then I would not go to the police. It is pointless, the horse has bolted. Why not look at why the person who robbed you was so desperate. Drugs maybe, if so why does he want to "escape" from our society. Maybe unconsciously he knows he is a slave, nothing more.

Beaten - the same. I have been leathered a few times, you get wide to it as you get older and usually drink is involved on both sides. You don't get that many people who attack strangers for "fun", again maybe you want to be looking at why violence is glamourised in the media and what effect that has. See Clockwork Orange.

Child abducted - again rare. Probably more common though, given media exposure of cases and it's effect on certain individuals. Also see mass killings for this

Your home catches fire. 10 to 1 on it will be well torched before the fire brigade arrive. Most house fires (here) are caused by alcohol and the chip pan. Again question why people want to get that smashed that they forget their supper is cooking. There are not that many house fires anyway.

cheers

Aleksandra said...

@Ben I must admit that I feel certain,how can I say,negativity towards him from your side.But if you say that you're fine with him then there's nothing much I can say about that.
Btw I am very curious to know in what subject do you have a degree?

Benjamin S said...

Aleksandra I studied Ancient History, did dissertation on Augustus' architectural transformation of Rome... fun (was alright actually)! I did not do too much work for my degree though (had to really push it in the final year), just glad I was able to pass with honours.

Got my first angry email from Donny btw. Donny please just leave it, your comments will be removed so what is the point in causing so much confrontation, just focus on what you are doing in your blog which has some good info in it please, feel free to "expose me" on your blog, just don't advertise it here. I gave you ample opportunity to change direction but you even came back with your misunderstanding of that ironic line in the Gomez/Lovato comment, I frankly had enough after months and months of being very patient with you.

Aleksandra said...

@Anonymous

What do you mean by cult of personality?

Newspaceman said...

You abilities leave me puzzled Aleksandra. You are able to ascertain how someone you have never met or talked with feels about someone else they have never met or talked with, and in fact accuse them of thinking the opposite of what they state, based on a sentence ?


cheers

Aleksandra said...

@Ben Oh,sorry for bothering you,but I just remembered ,what happend to that Red Ice thing?

Newspaceman said...

Lovato and Gomez on Barney


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR_wwWzReKc&feature=PlayList&p=826B6DF1D08083CD&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=23

cheers

Aleksandra said...

@Newspaceman Yes I have the ability to do that,any problem with that?

Benjamin S said...

Ah the Red Ice thing, it could still happen, it just sort of stalled with me deciding I needed to focus on finishing Uni when it was getting set up, I will hopefully get back in touch with the Red Ice guys and get the ball rolling on some new video stuff at some point, I must admit my confidence is not great at the moment but will try and get things together and sort something out over the next few months (I need to get in touch with a few other people too asap).

LVB re my next post, I'll probably just finish off the Golden Child/Lewis post, assuming I'm not kept busy by dealing with Donny for the next few days.

Anonymous said...

"Over analyzing" poster 14:49, give urself a break. What I do is my business, Im not scouring anything and if this is the best u can say, so be it. U can find as much feedback as u want on this blogspot.

C.

Donny said...
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Anonymous said...

Ben, again, try do smth about all these "species" here, u know what Im talking about. Is that so, every idiot can throw his post here?

Anyway:

http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2010/06/22/tom-nicon-fashion-model-commits-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-40127

C.

Anonymous said...

I have to say Ben that it seems you removed that post by Donny because it cast you in an unfavorable light.
He called you out for the schadenfreude you were displaying in your post about Selena. When you laugh at others misfortune what does that say about your agenda? The sadistic humor evidenced in many of your posts is something that really needs to be discussed here, if, in fact, it is coming from such a benign standpoint as you have previously claimed. For example, when you were making jokes about Cathy Obrien and the Most Dangerous Game, you did know that the "chases" at the Bohemian Grove happen to actual people, right? Or is that something you have discounted as irrelevent since, as you have said before here, you have no actual real life experience in Mk realities aside from reading about it on the internet?

Donny said...
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Newspaceman said...

Aleksandra, surely you would know if I had a problem, given your abilities ?

Benjamin S said...

I am not going to argue with you, your comments always follow the exact same line of massive assumptions, over-exaggerations and outright lying about some of the things said at this blog. If you think I lack empathy and have no care for the victims then you are flat out wrong, there is nothing I can say that would prove to you otherwise. You may not like my tone in certain places but my heart is in the right place, I do not need to prove this to you. Donny's comment was just a rehash of all the things he has said in the past (and I have explained that line from that post, I would never dream of 'laughing at other people's plight', I was expressing the irony of the whole twitter situation [makes it look like an expression of freedom, I should have said 'I find it a little ironic' instead], that is all), as far as I am concerned it was the final straw (after many many and numerous warnings, as anyone who has been following these comments can testify to).

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Anonymous said...

I find it suspicious that as a blog administrator you remove insightful posts that cast light on some of your misstatements, if you would prefer to call it that. This is especially odd considering that you at the same time allow comments that call MKed celebrities "pathetic and disgusting". By allowing this comment on your site, you are by default collaborating with the original person in spreading more MK abuse into the world. If you want to allow open discussion like you say you do, then it stands to reason that Donny's post about how some of these posts could result in a celebrity suicide should be allowed as well. This is a subject that is especially relevant here because of how, right after your post on how Simon Monjack was Brittany Murphy's handler appeared,
Simon Monjack actually committed suicide!! And this brings up another point that someone else mentioned: what about the possibility that a lot of these guys in the celeb world are actually slaves too and they and their girlfriends are actually triggering each other? What are the consequences of lashing out at someone who was most likely programmed as well? Could one of these posts actually trigger a celebrity into the self destruct programming that is so common amongst Monarchs? I wouldn't doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Oh and I assume that the comment about outright lying was directed at me??? Because if there is something I have lied about then I am in the dark about that. So maybe you could address that concern more directly if you actually want me to respond to it.

Anonymous said...

OHMYGOD. DRAMAAAA

Anonymous said...

just leave ben alone! he has done absolutely nothing wrong so stop trying to make him feel guilty. cunt.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I just knew somebody would start up with the drama thing too. That's because, for many of the readers (and commenters) on this site, learning about MK is just passive entertainment and they don't have to deal with it in their day to day life. It is not real to them and this is why it's so easy to be callous towards people who have been tortured in some of the worst ways imagineable. Go back to watching Jersey Shore, people!

Anonymous said...

no. i meant YOU are the one creating the drama.

Lori said...

ill i watched that youtube video with demi and selena, why did it say "spinning time" and have pictures of them spinning?

also, i wanted to say, is THIS ALL some sort of social experiement???

LVB said...

Hey Ben

Thank you, sincerely, you won't regret the decision. If anything, it will be one of those things where you'll kick yourself a little only because you didn't do it much sooner.

As you can see already, the same pattern just continues and worsens. But this would be the case whether you banned, deleted or did absolutely nothing.

Not sure if you saw it, but I mentioned in a recent post how the only reason(s) I'd stop posting here included being too busy from time to time, and if you asked me to.

Wouldn't it be really awesome if more people had that basic level of common sense and integrity to recognize that when you're asked politely and repeatedly to leave a person's own place, there just shouldn't need to be any further discussion? This is among the clearest indicators of character, motive and intent.

Also, please don't waste even a second of your time explaining anything to the malignant tw@t. lol

Probably the worst part is just the complete refusal and inability there to accept any responsibiity whatsoever, for anything.

It's very much like so many current and future felons; weaseling in and out of the system, disregarding the rights of others as a career goal. Nothing is ever their own fault. On the contrary, the worse their bee-havior, the more it is someone else's fault, and they are always the victim; at least within their own severely warped construct.

Nauseating, yes, but can't you feel the sense of relief already? Like a heavenly cool rain after a hellish summer day...like today, for example. (108 F atm). @#$%#@$%

Onward and upward!

Anonymous said...

@ Aleksandra,
Here is the wikipedia definition:
"A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise"
Traditionally, personality cults have been used to galvanize public opinion towards a specific agenda.
In this case, the pseuduccultmedia groupthink seems to be particularly skewed towards creating a repressive and hateful atmosphere for people who have been thorugh MK ultra programming, in a way that reinforces the psychological abuse they received from their handler.

Lori said...

i wonder, who is this new anonymous and how did you come here? what do you know? are you questioning everyones motives and why? i am merely curious....

and i am concerned about people who have been abused, tortured, MK'd etc. it is very saddening to me. it effects me. i do want to learn. i want to understand and learn and want to help...somehow, if that is possible...

this blog here only exposes a small fraction of the underbelly of MK. there are so many things that we do not know that do occur. horrific inhumane things...

there are elements of good and evil in this world as well. yes we are all human, (no one is a reptilian or some sort of God or deity, demon possessed maybe, but we are HUMAN) there are so many unexplained things that we are not meant to know yet.

we must remain humble, like children, and as children of God, we are curious...we want to learn, we want to know...

i have my own reasons on how i particularly found this blog, as i am sure others do as well..

how you may wonder? well, if not for strange things that have happened to me that sort of opened my eyes, i would still be blind...

also i do read gossip blogs like perez hilton. why? i dont know, maybe cuz i like the jersey shore! just kidding i never watch that show nor do i care too...

anyways...oh yeah, britney spears account was hacked her twitter was...anyways, it said she was the devil and new world order is coming. most of the commenters on perez's site thought it was funny, but i found it strange, so i googled britney spears illuminati new world order etc and came across this site. then i started reading about miley cyrus and i got really sad to tears...

anyways...im not sure what point i am trying to make, none really i just like to write.

thanks ben for deleting donnys comments....it was the same thing over and over and im sure we all agree that it just wears off...

Lori said...

hey the word verification is fauny, that is my middle name, well, fawn is...how fauny! FUNNY!

t said...

interesting what the person above said about what russell brand does in 'get him to the greek'. maybe he IS katy's handler!

that reminds me, why is that chat show host called 'chelsea handler'? don't you think its an odd name? surely not her real one

LVB said...

Hey Anon

Apologies for previous comment being off btw, if I confused anon x with anon y and attributed someone else's thoughts with yours.

Also, on one of the above, re: your criticism of Ben, I think related to what were my use of the descriptors "pathetic and disgusting"...but in saying so you said it referenced a plurality, as in "celebs" when what I said referenced one specific person whose behavior patterns are what I consider pathetic and disgusting (opinion) precisely because I don't believe that she is MK-ed, and is therefore mocking something that we agree is very tragic, serious and unfunny.

And I don't see the need to sue for libel or anything (lol) but just as a technical point, what you did was sorta jumped all over me for not knowing with certainty if TT is or is not MK-ed, which is a valid point that I accept.

But having said that, in this most recent thing where you're launching a salvo on Ben, presumably for inconsistency in deleting a Donny comment (thank God) you 're sorta appointing yourself keeper of the standards somehow at another person's blog (which is presumptuous at best).

Further, with regard to your criticizing my perhaps harsh (but legal) words of opinion, I'd just say that when you say this sort of thing, making the point that it is wrong to be insensitive as such to use perhaps hurtful adjectives, in doing so, you're also saying that whomever was in question as MK-ed(and therefore not being fair game due to being an MK victim in your view and therefore not responsible for their actions) you're making the leap that you somehow have a confirmed status there, in order for the person to be off limits for my mean guy comments.

So, in reflecting on your own point about my uncertainty in that regard, you'd have to reverse that and put the shoe on your own foot, in that your worthwhile observation of my not knowing a person's status for certain, this also applies to your comment re: Ben being inconsistent since neither you, nor I, know for certain if anyone is MK-ed.

Long winded, I know lol. So, the point being, I suppose, that in terms of Ben's alleged inconsistency (by your self-appointed and unsolicited standards) in his choices (which importantly are HIS to make on his blog, and likewise would be yours on your blog) the deal there is that if you're going to attempt to discredit me for not nice words that maybe hurt TT's feelings, then your own statement here about Ben therefore being inconsisent, by your standards, is also invalid in that it is merely speculation on your own part as to the MK status which would qualify poor sweet Tila as being off limits due to her alleged MK victimhood.

So, you know, it's tricky and all, but don't discredit your own good point by stating I'm mocking someone who's MK-ed, whom I'm saying is pathetic and disgusting, again, precisely because I think she's NOT MK-ed and she is therefore mocking something very serious and unfunny for her own personal gain, financial and otherwise.

At the same time, you can't really back up that criticism of me calling MK-ed stars (plural) unkind names when you don't know any more than I whether they actually are or not, as well as the fact that I did refer to one and only one such person, who we can agree to disagree on, if our skulls do not implode from reading this post!!

This one's almost as bad as trying to explain falsified metacomm in the Imma Bee PsyWar section lol.

Anyway, thanks or cheers, whatever works and again sorry if I mistook another anon's words for your anon words.

I really think an anon unique naming scheme would be a cool and helpful idea if, I am to be expected to keep it all straight in which anon says what!

Or, which witch is which?? :)

LVB said...

Anon

Thanks! You just proved out what I said in the long post I just did, far better than I could have myself.

It's good you're not a real journalist or expected to be accurate and stuff, cuz you'd be sued, blued and tattooed by now, cuz u gotta learn to use words like "alleged" MK victims along with your "hateful" speculative personal opinion type propaganda method there being represented to Aleksandra as if it were fact.

Just a thought..."alleged". :)

Anonymous said...

I don't consider myself to be keeper of anything regarding standards and am not sure where you're getting all this about a libel lawsuit??? But this is the internet and with it comes freedom of speech. Unless Ben decides to turn off the comments, then there will always be people who disagree.
It's pretty simple. I just think it's rather telling that out of all of Donny's posts, most of which were just asking people to visit his blog or yelling at them for not commenting, the comments only started getting deleted when Donny provided an actually useful critique of Ben's sadistic jokes about an MKed celebrity. And the reason I say that Ben isn't MKed is because he has said as much on this blog.
Perhaps I am wrong about Tila being programmed, you do have a point there. But given that she has talked about getting assassinated, in what seemed to be complete sincerity, I would say that the chances of her being tampered with in some form or fashion are pretty high. But that is besides the point that I was making in the first place, which is that when you claim to be an opponent of the abuses of Mk ultra, then you turn around and direct psychological abuse at whoever is irritating you at the moment, then you are a complete hypocrite.

LVB said...

The LOL after things (like the libel mention) typically indicates humor...or an attempy thereof. :)

I'm avoiding the use of "lmao" due to its recent confusion with the word lame, perceived insults, etc.

t said...

OMG anon, just shut up!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"It's very much like so many current and future felons; weaseling in and out of the system, disregarding the rights of others as a career goal."
It's easy to focus on felons, but in the US, the overwhelming majority of prisoners are incarcerated for non-violent crimes.
Does your contempt extend to those prisoners who work factory jobs for 5 cents an hour, without access to quality medical care or legal representation, all because of a couple petty theft charges? You enforce those laws too, don't you? And isn't it hard to deny the relationship between the prison industrial compex and the global surveillance society? For example,
in my town the local police department has been receiving money from Homeland Security to install security cameras on every other corner, and in NYC police depts. have gained money for cameras installed with behavior tracking software. The day I give my full respect to a police chief is the day I see one of them refuse dirty money from organizations affiliated with organized state terrorism.

Anonymous said...

"You enforce those laws too, don't you?"
Calrification on my previous comment: what I intended to say is that _police_ enforce those laws, which pretty much guarantees a certain amount of complicity in the modern day slavery that is euphemistically called prison labor.

Benjamin S said...

16:04 Like I said, the reason for deleting that comment was because (as anyone who is objective can see) I had just said prior to his comment that it was highly likely I would start deleting his comments if he came back with more (which I had warned many times before, for months and months I respectfully responded to his emails and put up with his inane comments and inability to understand even the simplest of things [even provided him with screencaptures of how to upload images to blogger and other things to help him]).

Needless to say he came back with the same old "points" (along with saying he agrees with you which was the only thing remotely new, and echoing your arguments which probably explains your views on my deletion of it...) he has brought up many times to garner some attention, like that "sadistic joke" (there was nothing remotely sadistic in it, Donny just completely failed to understand it [you'd never guess!] and has now taken it out of context), and that we should be concentrating on the things that he feels warrant focus (it's amazing how you fail to see some of the things Donny has said in his blog which are much worse than anything that has been said about Tila here [i.e. consistently calling Miley Cyrus a 'slut' calling people 'faggots' etc], I would not say and have not said that about her or anyone else, and have said I personally believe Tila is a genuine victim in a comment to Lori; your hostility to me allows you to think I am responsible for all the comments left but obviously that is very unfair as I try to keep moderation to a minimum).

In a previous comment you said I didn't allow Donny to comment about the potential for my blog triggering suicide in some victims and other issues, which is clearly not true as this was something he also brought up before and I was perfectly fine with him raising this issue (I have never pulled any of them at all). I had no problem with that, or him 'critiquing me', if that were the case I would have deleted his many other comments that did exactly the same a while ago, the only difference between this and the others is that he used your arguments as a basis behind it. I have no problems with people posting comments that disagree with me as you have said, this is plain for anyone to see.

I'm not sure why you are being so judgmental of me anyway when all I am doing is trying my best to be true to myself and the readers, I am certainly not the sadist you make me out to be and have just done my best to put out info on MK/Monarch in a way that I feel is accessible to people today (for sure a lot is perhaps too light but there are many serious posts that do cover the fundamentals of abuse/trauma that have no mild "jokes" you take such massive issue with in them whatsoever). I'm not even sure why I am justifying myself to you though, if you were reading my stuff with some degree of objectivity you would at least have a slightly balanced view. Anyway, you have a big fan in Donny, he is posting your comments in his eloquent post "exposing me" as evidence for whatever he is accusing me of, hehe.

Anonymous said...

If you want to keep moderation down to a minimum then why target Donny in the first place? Why delete his comments but not the ones that are derogatory towards people that you yourself believe are genuine victims? I haven't seen his blog so can only judge him based on the comments he left here, none of which were abusive or vulgar, although some were quite annoying. If these are the posts you give priority to when it comes to moderation then I think that your values are way off, especially because a number of long term posters here were already chased away because you refused to delete the sexually explicit and derogatory comments which were written specifically about them. Why are there so many narcissistic and vulgar people who think that MK ultra is entertainment, or exhibit a complete lack of understanding about issues of trauma? Well, maybe it has something to do with the lack of respect you have shown for the commenters here. Who is going to want to stick around in such a hateful atmosphere besides other people who share some of those qulaities?

Donny said...
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Anonymous said...

correction about Donny's previous posts: I can see that there is quite a bit of hostility there that could technically be characterized as abuse. But this mainly seems to come after Ben rants about him, while ignoring derogatory comments that are actually a lot worse from LVB. Why bother? If you allow such profound disrespect as has been displayed by several people here, then it is only common sense that there will be more of it to come. Donny is merely a reflection of the atmosphere you've created. And it is no surprise that he seems to idolize you too. Voyeuristic and invasive posts about MKed slaves
are only going to draw more immaturity. If you don't like him, then I would suggest changing yourself first.

Donny said...
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skrambo said...

"I find it suspicious that as a blog administrator you remove insightful posts that cast light on some of your misstatements, if you would prefer to call it that."

I just smacked my forehead so hard my brain flew out.

This is exactly why Ben doesn't want to ban people who aren't even contributing to the discussion and only causing fights and arguments. Because he knows people like you will show up and claim that he's being hypocritical by deleting pointless attacks on his integrity. That is complete bullshit and you know it. Stop defending Donny, he is not worth it, and the best thing for him to do now is leave while he still has a shred of dignity.

skrambo said...

Seriously, I'm sick of you people taking over Ben's blog, show some fucking respect. Christ.

Anonymous said...

My point in making that comment wasn't to defend Donny. You are missing my point entirely if that's what you think. That is why I also said that Donnyy is childish and immature, in case you missed that part.
Show some respect? Where is Ben's respect for the Mk victims whose lives he is constantly prying into? Where is his respect for the people who are gone now because he refused to remove sexually derogatory comments about them? And this is the second time now that insulting comments about HIM are the ones that get priority treatment for removal while other people are getting dragged through the mud. Tommy, I would harbor a guess that you are another one of these arm chair researchers who knows little about the subject you are so fascinated in. If you did, I'll bet you would be a little more sensitive to things like suicide programming, which truly can be triggered from the exact kind of derogatory comments that are found on this blog.

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Anonymous said...

its very silly all this ... extremely silly. well i believe that celebrities see almost everything, if their handlers or some other shady characters want them dead its pretty easy they wont need anything triggering them. alot of celebs love their pill boxes, it just takes a few things to push them over the edge as was the case with micheal jackson, mafia hassleing him and money issues and accusations of pedophilia! wake up people.... its really not that hard for celebs to be messed with by their handlers and doesnt need a site like this to trigger them. they are surrounded by kittens, cages , half naked beautiful women, strange words. its their world, a world of creativity, for better or for worse. so........ just get with the program!

Anonymous said...

yes scantily dressed women being tortured will attract pervy teens in all likelihood. be nice if this site attacks the issue which is genderless. do handlers have handlers? i believe so! not sure triggers are to be taken literally, triggering happens to people that have been traumatised at various points. personality changes, dissociative behaviour is common in many people with celebs it can however be more drastic. this does not prove that they were tortured mercilessly however. there are people that are tortured terribly and its the ones we dont hear about! very often..

Anonymous said...

people commit suicide cos they have opted out, having been abused myself i used to obsess about marylin monroe and decided that i should opt out. was it a trigger? perhaps. but its not the site persons responsibility he can have a warning at the top to say anyone whos easily triggered please do not look and thats all really. i dont think trigger words stay the same either, i think they change through out a persons life time.

Newspaceman said...

LVB - Just to clear up a misunderstanding, I never mentioned reptilians, you did. Nor did I ever mention that I believed this theory. Have you read De Vere and his Dragon Blood. You again surprise me in that you claimed to have no knowledge of the gnostic interpretation of Eden, yet these "spiritual" entities you speak of in place of aliens are straight out the gnostic text book.

Also, I note you have not responded to my small note on the myths of law enforcement you use to support your position.

Also this:

"It's very much like so many current and future felons; weaseling in and out of the system, disregarding the rights of others as a career goal. Nothing is ever their own fault. "

Frankly, that is just shite, can you substantiate please. It sounds more like the elite than the "criminals" I know.

cheers

LVB said...

Hey Newspaceman,

I'm sorry, but I really don't even know what to say to all this. You sound so hostile and like you've taken everything so personally, I just don't get where you're coming from there.

I don't have any need to support a position, man, I have only mentioned things I know. I am sorry if you've had bad experiences with cops or whatever the deal is there, but my thing was computer forensics, sworn but civilian (and our only oath is to the Constitution, not any particular human).

I just don't think there's much point to saying more, because I'm not trying to diminish any truth that you've seen or what you believe. It's fine with me that you believe whatever you choose.

I've really tried to be nothing but kind and understanding with you, so again I'm just not getting what the hostile tone is all about.

And the reptilian thing...jeez man so defensive, I don't understand. I didn't say you brought anything up at all, I was mentioning it sort of generically because I wasn't sure what the thing you mentioned was all about, but I guessed that was sort of in the ballpark maybe, and it's just my personal view of what that might be about, but who knows.

I don't know how to address any of it with you seemingly so on edge about it, and I don't need to prove anything to you anymore than you need to prove anything to me.

The other msg you mentioned I don't recall seeing, but I guess maybe it was lost in the blur of things lately. So, once more, I'm happy to discuss things with you, if it can be something not quite so contentious, but I just don't feel like anything productive may come of it if you're deadset against hearing anything I might share with you...and that's ok, I just can't see bothering with it at all if it's a pointless impasse from the start.

We might be better off just discussing other things, you know, because I'm not looking for a big struggle with you or anyone else.

If what I can tell you has some value, cool, if not that's fine, too.

I hope you understand what I'm saying to you, and that by even writing this instead of just leaving it alone, I'm trying to avoid the hostility confrontation thing I'm feeling from you, for what it's worth. Who needs that shit?? Not me. :)

Cheers, beers etc right back at ya, and I was being totally sincere with you as far as liking your blog and the comment I left you there. I have no problem with you or whatever your views are; if they work for you, that's all that matters.

Lori said...

anonymous, i am wondering who you are. you seem to have knowledge of some sort...i understand what you are saying, and it is very easy to trigger someone who has been abused etc. for most people who havent it is hard for them to realize that these issues need to be addressed with sensitivity. i dont come here to be entertained, but i do find myself spending alot of time on the internet....it is hynoptic is a sense i guess you can say...

has anyone seen "The Box"? i just watched it...i was trying to sense an MK theme in it (as ben pointed out before the cover has a red stripe over cameran diaz's eye..

http://thepeoplesmovies.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/cameron-diaz-the-box-poster.jpg

i thought i saw some themes but then it got all sci-fi and that distracted me...then i was just confused...???

also, bens post are informative. they are pretty straight forward and blunt...however, i have to say i like when i get a sense of someones personality...that is also why i like coming here, because yes the comments are interesting and should be a place for discussion. yes what donny said about miley being a slut and the jonas brothers, im sorry but that is not cool! totally hypocritical, i probably shouldnt of said anything because i dont want his backlash towards me now...

hmm...

i saw at the end of craig ferguson, he now has this 'white bunny' puppet. i remember i watched a youtube clip someone left here about white bunnies. he was petting it at the end of tonights show and had a weird expression while looking at the camera....i had to mention a craig ferguson thing since i am trying to make a point...im not sure what that point is exactly now!???

hmm, anyways....

im going to sleep! GOOD NIGHT

Heel Of Tequila said...

If MK programming is so unsophisticated that it can be triggered by any Tom, Dick or Harry (e.g. random internet blog writers) then we have absolutely nothing to fear from the NWO.

Anyone fucking with the mind to that extent is going to make sure they are in complete control of the triggers... the only people this blog is triggering off is the mentally insane and Ben shouldn't have to be responsible for them either.

FFS get a clue drama llamas

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skrambo said...

"If MK programming is so unsophisticated that it can be triggered by any Tom, Dick or Harry (e.g. random internet blog writers) then we have absolutely nothing to fear from the NWO.

Anyone fucking with the mind to that extent is going to make sure they are in complete control of the triggers... the only people this blog is triggering off is the mentally insane and Ben shouldn't have to be responsible for them either."

Agreed.

And Anonymous, you really don't know anything about me or why I come here or why I'm interested in this subject. You shouldn't assume things. The way Donny is acting is not acceptable in this kind of atmosphere. You should realize that. All it's doing is creating chaos when we should be paying attention to the subject at hand, namely the subjects presented in the post, and people who act the way Donny does shouldn't be encouraged in what they do. Notice I'm not condemning Donny himself, I'm sure he has perfectly valid reasons for being interested in this research, but the way he's acting is not what's going to get us to a coherent discussion on this blog.

I apologize for being so cold and mechanical, but childish behavior isn't a reason to treat someone differently.

Aleksandra said...

OMG Ben exsposed,wtf?LOOOOL
How much of an idiot you have to be to right something as stupid as that?I just knew it that he will use all the comments that were ever made in his defence against us all.

t said...

"anonymous, i am wondering who you are. you seem to have knowledge of some sort..."


me too. who the hell are you?

t said...

maybe its donny's father!

haha i can't believe he is writing a blog to "expose" you ben. sad sad sad

Anonymous said...

dont get what this arguement is about if his comments have been deleted then whats the issue..

Anonymous said...

ok people. It doesn't even necessarily have anything do with sophisticated programming. It is more an issue of basic human decency, which most of the people here don't have, because it is basically like Perez Hilton with endless speculations about people's childhood molestation and whatever else you feel like laughing about that day. Nothing sophisticated going on, just garden variety narcissism.
You don't have to be programmed to be negatively affected by what is said about you in the media. And the fact is that there has already been a suicide that happened immediately after one of these posts, and if I were someone who actually cared about how my actions affected others, I would think very deeply on that.

Anonymous said...

"And Anonymous, you really don't know anything about me or why I come here or why I'm interested in this subject. You shouldn't assume things. The way Donny is acting is not acceptable in this kind of atmosphere. You should realize that. All it's doing is creating chaos when we should be paying attention to the subject at hand, namely the subjects presented in the post, and people who act the way Donny does shouldn't be encouraged in what they do."
Actually, I agree with you that the kind of thing he says here (specifically the derogatory comments about Miley) really shouldn't be tolerated by somebody who claims to be an MK activist. Yet similarly abusive comments are tolerated so why the double stradard? It seems like the reason he was banned has more to do with a lack of popularity than disrespect since no one really makes an issue of that problem if it is coming from the blogger or one of the more popular commenters. The point I was making is that he is a reflection of the type of environment that Ben has created, which encourages invasive voyeurism and profound disrespect. Why treat the symptom when you can go straight to the root of the problem?

As for how I know that you are an armchair researcher, well, given that you have stated here that you "don't have the stomach" for full time MK research, I highly doubt that trauma based programming is a part of your day to day activity or even has been in the past. Your posts scream sheltered, kid. I'm sorry, but they do.

Heel of Tequila said...

I think it's clear to anyone with half a brain and no personal agenda with this comment section that Donny was banned for being an annoying shit and Ben gave him more than enough chances. The reason no one else has been banned is that no one else has been rude or psycho enough to start spamming their blog here and then make constant personal threats towards us or threaten suicide when we choose not to read, comment or give cash.

Anonymous said...

So calling somebody a malignant twat isn't rude enough? Oh, I see. Psychological abuse is perfectly acceptable as long as it's directed at somebody we don't like very much. See, the problem with all of these keyboard warriors is that they forget their words are reaching actual human beings, so what is said online is no different than what is said to somebody's face. The only difference is that most people who fling insults around on the internet would probably be too cowardly to do it in person. But the effect remains the same.

Anonymous said...

when will this arguing end?

skrambo said...

ok people. It doesn't even necessarily have anything do with sophisticated programming. It is more an issue of basic human decency, which most of the people here don't have"

What's funny is, you just described Donny. And I would have no problem telling him he's acting like a spoiled little brat in person.

"I highly doubt that trauma based programming is a part of your day to day activity or even has been in the past. Your posts scream sheltered, kid. I'm sorry, but they do."

Should it be part of ANYONE'S daily activity? No. Balance is required to reach any sort of goal in any field, which is why Ben doesn't post something every day, unlike some people who are clearly obsessed with this subject. To be studying this kind of thing everyday while not considering any other possibilities would prove some sort of mental sickness. Once again, you're pulling lame assumptions out of thin air.

You're creating drama out of nothing and you need to admit it. This isn't a popularity contest, you guys seem crazed for Ben's attention and all I try and do is contribute to the discussion to help it along, but there's all these unrelated arguments and just plain nuisance going on in the comments section. It makes it really hard to concentrate on the subject. Which my responding to you is evidence of. People like you and Donny are getting us further from the "truth" than you think by distracting discussion into pointless morality plays.

Newspaceman said...

That's all cool LVB, it just seems to me that you are promoting the state and utilsing the benefit of being part of such to do so. I think the opposit and needed to say that.

I was a bit pissed off about using me and reptilians in the same paragraph, the way I read it is that this is a device used constantly by our media in order to either promote or ridicule a concept or person.

As I said before I am not trying to fall out with you, but you state this "law enforcement" issue as if it was gospel, all I am asking is that you look further, into the reasons why people behave as they do. Surely this ties in with "mind control.

I don't have any issues with law enforcement but that does not mean I should be happy about the way they are progressing.

cheers

skrambo said...

I say that I don't have the stomach for this kind of thing, but you don't know why I feel that way. I've explained to Ben that I feel a little triggered by some of the things that he posts on because I am naturally dissociative (due to both internal and external factors) and looking at this stuff for too long makes me feel a sense of extreme disconnection and confusion that reading someone dissecting helps me to get over. Sorry I can't put myself through a haze of dissociative mirrors every day, I'd do it for you but I don't know you. And it's going against your theory of "let's protect people from triggers".

skrambo said...

I guess to sum up, since I'm not going to bother joining in this pointless argument any longer, is that if I were to go to a website, annoy the visitors and the creator of the site, stick around even though they all express their dislike of how I'm acting, and then start insulting random commenters, if they asked me to leave I'd probably realize I was acting like a huge douche and leave, unless it was my intention to cause trouble. That's all.

Anonymous said...

"Should it be part of ANYONE'S daily activity? No. Balance is required to reach any sort of goal in any field, which is why Ben doesn't post something every day, unlike some people who are clearly obsessed with this subject. To be studying this kind of thing everyday while not considering any other possibilities would prove some sort of mental sickness."
For some people there is no choice but for it to be a part of their daily activity and these are the people that I was referring to when I said that you are sheltered from that reality. But again, it seems to be mostly a lot of inexperienced and immature people here, which is why the conversation has devolved to calling people douches and also why the material seems "rather silly" to some. I'm sure it is silly to them because they don't have to live with the after effects of trauma based mind control on a day to day basis. Am I here to cause trouble? Yes I am. Because when I see a person who claims to be opposed to mind control allow psychological abuse to happen on his blog, and even at times participate in it, then I see no reason not to provoke a conversation about that. If you think that is funny, then I am glad you have had the privilege to be able to laugh at these subjects.

Anonymous said...

"it is basically like Perez Hilton with endless speculations about people's childhood molestation and whatever else you feel like laughing about that day. Nothing sophisticated going on, just garden variety narcissism."

im sorry who is laughing here?

Anonymous said...

It is part of the general culture of this blog for people to express contempt for both Mked clebrities and also the Mked people who come on this blog to share their stories. So I am not lumping everyone in with this criticism, just the majority. And the reason I say it is a cult of personality is because this culture has been allowed to thrive because of the jokes and selective deletion of comments by the blog administrator, who usually removes comments which are first and foremost damaging to his own reputation, while leaving derogatory comments about others for everyone to read.

Aleksandra said...

@Anon
OH lord! No Ben did not delete Donny's comments 'cause they were against him but because we fucking begged him to delete them!If you read Donny's comments on many other posts,not just here,and If you have any sence of inteligence or logic you would of figured that out!But you're just over exaggerating,and what gives you the right to enter someone's privacy and tell if the person is sheltered or not?And what have you done to help MK vicitms instead of questioning everyone's else morals?You write your own blog that way you believe it should be written and allow comments you think should be there,and that way "enlighten" us on how are we suppose to act.You have to understand that a couple of years ago(for me a couple of months ago) many people over here had no idea that such a horrible thing could even exist,and you have no idea what an emotional breakdown I felt when I realised that all that ever knew was a fucking lie!
And what is going to trigger someone,the analysis of the music video or movie shown on a blog on the internet,or the video or movie itself shown on every single tv channel?Get the point?

Anonymous said...

I would just like to say that I have been an avid follower of fashion and contemporary film for years and watched this symbolism, but was not able to piece together all the pieces but was very disturbed and traumatized at these strange 'synchronicities'. I found that because I was confused, I would seek out more media to try to understand it, when now I know the right thing to do is to tune it all out and live a simple life. Ben's blog among others has helped me see the plan behind these people and I have also developed a greater empathy and understanding for these victims. To compare this blog to Perez's is simply wrong. I believe that when someone is too close to truth the trolls emerge. There is a lot of truth on this blog. Ben, thank you.

Anonymous said...

Well Aleksandra,
You don't know me very well so you don't know that I actually do talk to and do my best to help MK victims every single day. Just about everyone I know has been involved in these programs and this is why I have such strong feelings about this subject, because I have witnessed first hand how psychological and other forms of abuse can destroy a person's spirit.
That is why I say that Tommy is sheltered, as well as many of the other people here, because they have stated to their lack of experience in these issues in other posts. It is hardly invading someone's privacy to repeat something that has been previously admitted to on a public forum.
I am a previous fan of this site as well, because I was operating under the idea that any exposure is good exposure. But at this point I no longer feel this way because I have seen the way that actual MK victims are treated here. But you are a relatively recent visitor to the site so you probably don't have the context for what I'm referring to and of course it just looks like stirring drama. The problem that I see is when the supposed resistance to a problem actually replicates the abuse that it was opposed to in the first place. This is pretty much the definition of controlled resistance, and the reason why I think that pseudoccultmedia is essentially a disinformation site.
It is not the ananlysis that I have a problem with as much as the gratuitous fixation on people's personal lives without a compassionate understanding of their situation. And I think there is a big difference between unfounded speculation about which teenage girl has been branded with cattle prods and me calling someone sheltered! Actually, it was working with MK victims directly which taught me that, because I realized that many of them get extremely unconfortable when talking about the specifics of their abuse ad nauseum, especially when it is presented in such a nihilistic aka humorous way as it is here.

LVB said...

Tommy

Amen, again...I couldn't agree more with all you've said.

And, just for the sake of clarity, I did use the term "malignant twat" quite deliberately and it is the most accurate term for little (and I say little as an indication of maturiy and intelligence, not physical age or size) Donny. It is unfortunate, yes, but no less truthful. And I, for one, didn't come "straight out of the box" saying that sort of thing - what I did first, was try to reinforce something positive, by telling Donny that his guitar playing has some potential, and he should probably focus on that, and the other positive aspects of life.

Anything and everything he has said here, to my knowledge, has been that of whining and crying and "poor me blah blah look at me everyone me me me". This is especially annoying, especially when I consider how many other people, in other countries, for example, have a lot in life that is a thousand times worse and less encouraging than Donny's, in terms of future opportunities, financial and otherwise - and yet, they manage not only to be thoughtful and kind, most of the time, but also to respect others and think of something other than their own problems and being disproportinately rewarded and appreciated for what can only be desribed as mediocre, at best, articles - and highly offensive (slut, faggot, etc.) and error-ridden, to be more blunt and accurate.

I think some others here may be on the right track in wondering who it could be that shows up in perfect synchronous timing with Donny's long overdue demise. And, once again, anon whoever, your claims of somehow having some authoritative knowledge of what is moral, decent or kind, is more than a little vain and delusional.

If your views work for you, by all means, stick with them - but you don't have any sort of lock on what is right, valid, decent or just in this world, and I get the feeling that not too many folks appreciate your superior posture and continuously arrogant tone.

I'd recommend that you get busy writing your own articles, since you believe that what you know and believe is so much more accurate, kind and valuable than Ben or I do. Put your jmoney where your mouth is, and most importantly, do it in your own space.

You're not going to change Ben's writing, or mine, by being a hyper-critical sniper, hiding in the bushes, as it were.

Maybe you and your protege should team up and teach the world how to be decent and wonderful. I wish you the best of luck with that. :)

Anonymous said...

@Lori, do you think Perez Hilton was used by programmers/handlers to help break Britney when she was at her lowest points? His whole blog is mean-spirited in general, but he practically stalked her and gloated about stuff like, “LOL, she might have multiple personalities!” Perhaps embarrassing stuff about her was purposefully leaked to his site because he has no moral conscience about posting things. (Yes, I saw her commando pics on his site. I, too, thought she was trashy and hypocritical when I did not understand that her handlers set her up to fall.) It wasn’t too clear, either, what was driving his obsession with her – I mean, it wasn’t like she suddenly did something to alienate people like him, such as making derogatory comments about gays, for example.

LVB said...

Newspaceman

I appreciate what you've said, and all I can say is that there's probably some misunderstanding on both sides, which I'm perfectly willing to see and clear up, if that's what you want also.

What I can have told you as far as the cases I've seen involving pedophiles (cops included, if you recall) and Satanic ritual abuse (which many people still refuse to admit even exists, notably the FBI, which I've expressed my disgust for many times btw) - these accounts are very much "gospel", in terms of being truthful, factual accounts of events that did occur.

And I'm telling you, and others, that there are good people in govt; firefighters, clerks, computer forensics guys (wink) and, yes, even some gun-carrying type cops. You don't have to believe that, but it is true, and all I said to you is that I trhink there's some room for moderation and rationality in there somewhere between thinking all of anything really - race, culture, profession, etc. - are good or evil. Not all of anything are our automatically our enemy; well except demons, Skull and Bones creeps, etc. (humor added for effect)

I also said, and will again, that you're probably better off, overall, being suspicious and not trusting govt people too much. I don't how I can be any more fair and objective than that. If not simply the likelihood of their being malevolent, then the level of outright incompetence that I've experienced and witnessed might be reason enough to be 95+% suspicious and sickened. lol

All the same, if you want to know some things, and genuinely learn about some stuff from another angle and point of view and experience that you wouldn't otherwise have the chance to, I'm open to sharing stuff with you.

And I don't know how the reptilian thing got so tangled up and misconstrued there, but it had nothing to do with YOU, other than you mentioned whatever, the gnostic thing, and my closest frame of reference as to what you might be talking about at that point was aliens and reptilian stuff, so I told you what I generally thought about all of that, IF that was what you were referring to. Obviously, you then explained that stuff to me further.

So, sorry if you got mentioned in the same sentence or whatever the problem was there. lol

Thanks and take care!

Anonymous said...

dont think my last comment showed up....this might not make sense then but anyway no lori sorry i jst googled paul o grady n it was dogs not rabbits silly me...

Well to the commentor who mention chelsea handler....me too was also wondering why shes called that???

Does any one know anything about bruce forsyth????....michael barrymore?????....des o'connor......you know

Anonymous said...

add paul o'grady to that list also....him n brucie are neighbours n staples of british entertainment.....ben?????

Anonymous said...

"And what have you done to help MK vicitms instead of questioning everyone's else morals?"
Let me answer that question more thoroughly. I am currently editing about a half dozen different people's stories on MK abuse, which generally involves answering several dozen calls and e-mails from emotionally distraught people on a daily basis. Recently someone else has connected me to a local veteran's hall which is organizing a lawsuit regarding MK ultra and so I am also attempting to connect a group of people with attorney friends of mine from high school, although that process is going quite a bit slower than I would have hoped. The reason I am not making this information publicly available here is that, after having witnessed how MKed people on this site have been accused of lying and subjected to vicious personal attacks, I have no desire to bring any of those types of comments over to my own site. If anyone wants to post their e-mail then I will certainly forward them the link, however, this site is just not a place that is at all accomodating for survivors of trauma, so any open discussion of my own work here would be counterproductive at best.

It may well be that what I say here is extremely unpopular but at least I know that I am speaking from the heart and expressing what a lot of other people who have been chased away from here were afraid to say.

Lori said...

good for you anonymous i did have a feeling you were helping victims somehow. i am sure most of us here have not encountered true MK victims, nor would we know what to say or how to handle the situation. i certainly would like to help in any way that i could, but i know i am not qualified to do so...i am trying to learn not because it is like tabloid reading, but because i have a genuine concern about how this all works...why? etc...

anyays, i do feel as if gossip sites such as perez hilton do dote on celebs. they prey on them, pushing their buttons so to speak (oh has anyone seen the box btw? that movie was too sci-fi for me)...before i even found this site or read about things that still happen today, i also felt like people like perez or tila had some sort of parasite attached to them, but that was my sci-fi imagination i guess...

anyways, i did save these screenshots from his site that look very demonic...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/starbella78/blood.jpg

also in this one he has devil horns and he is doing the SHHH sign so i am pretty sure he knows HIS role in all this. btw i met him at some event in new york..

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/starbella78/blood.jpg

hmm....

Lori said...

what were you saying about dogs not rabbits anoymous up there?

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/starbella78/kellan.jpg

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skrambo said...

Anon - I understand a little more where you're coming from now. But I don't see Donny as being any more of a victim of this kind of stuff than I am. I don't see where he deserves special treatments for things that would get me kicked out within minutes.

There needs to be a balance here. People who are disturbing the flow what should be a place for intelligent discussion of serious topics should at least be told they are doing so, and should at least respect the fact that they have their own space to vent (i.e, a blog). I apologize for the fact that you have to answer phone calls and emails every day from MK victims, if I didn't have my own huge stack of problems to deal with I'd be helping more too. Don't mistake me for someone who simply absorbs this material without gaining anything from it.

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Lori said...

alright anyways, on chelsea handler show, (i dont know why i am watching this show?) i guess in the national enquirer, there is an article which says Jen Aniston has a new handler. i guess her and chelsea handler are now hanging out? maybe chelsea is some sort of hollywood handler? i dont know? but she is on "team roman polanski" which i find disgusting...

hmm....these gossip sites/shows etc do sit nasty on me...they are designed NOT to be healthy, to allow us to be snarky and influenced by them..

Anonymous said...

I would be interested in reading those personal stories anony. There is too little out there for real mk people to come together and compare notes. I keep looking...that's why I think Loris blog could be helpful.

My email Is
naiadneried12@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

I too would be interested in a blog of Lauri's.

I can tell by the way she tells her stories and the people she's met that she may be more involved in this than she realizes.

LVB said...

FYI, to everyone in general...

I don't recall seeing anyone, on any site or blog, ever do the unacceptable bullsh!t that Donny has done consistently for as long as I've been around here - you long timers would have to educate me on just how long it has actually been going on here at Pseudo.

...things like demanding that people visit, read and leave comments on his less than amazing blog.

...things like ridiculing and insulting people if they don't want to read his nonsense -just consider this fact alone - what kind of person attacks and insults people simply because they aren't interested in reading someone's blog articles?? And, even if they do, they are still jerks if they won't leave comments....sigh.

...things like forcefully trying to sell crap to people, and calling them jerks if they won't buy something, etc.

...things like suicidal threat behavior "just to see if anyone cares", and more importantly, defining "caring" as visiting a f*cking blog and leaving comments!


Yes, indeed, things like this tend to really annoy the sh!t out of people ( I might even say decent people), especially when they keep occurring frequently, consistently and worsen over time, as they have here with Donny boy.

I have also observed over time that "Donny" has displayed some interesting characteristics in his writing; namely the ability to shift between two noticably different writing styles - one that is purely indicative of an adolescent, which he claims to me, with often barely readable structure, very poor grammar and punctuation (if any), and then a second, remarkably different style (or pattern), which involves significantly better quality, grammar, speling, punctuation and overall readabiity.

Having received a little training in this area (questioned documents forensics and syntax analysis), I did notice this, and it's actually pretty hard not to.

While this is certainly not my specialty, it is something that is quite noticeable, and more than a little intruiging - I might even go so far as to say revealing.

Whether or not this is due to one individual doing it purposefully, or if it involves multiple people doing the writing, I don't know, but there are most definitely two divergent styles there.

Anyone who is interested (and I might respect it more if you're not lol) can take a look back through the various comments to see what I mean.

Ben can probably also shed some further light on this, having been the unfortunate victim of it in email form, as well as the blog posts, themselves. lol

LVB said...

I also find it hilarious that the f-ed up "L" key on my laptop just traumatized me, by making me misspell "speling". LMAO

(and, no, that lmao wasn't meant to imply that anyone is lame)

Anonymous said...

"Anon - I understand a little more where you're coming from now. But I don't see Donny as being any more of a victim of this kind of stuff than I am. I don't see where he deserves special treatments for things that would get me kicked out within minutes."
Tommy, I think you may be misinterpreting what I wrote because nowhere did I say that Donny shouldn't have gotten kicked out. What I said is that it was suspicious timing when he did get kicked out because the first comment that was deleted was one that had a legitimate criticism about Ben's sadistic humor. And this wouldn't be the first time that a comment about the blogger was deleted while other derogatory remarks were left on the blog. The problem I have is with psychological abuse and whether that comes from the blog's author or an immature fan is irrelevent. It is hypocritical to tolerate some abuse while selectively deleting that which casts the blogger in an unfavorable light. I would like to see more respect amongst people because this is a very serious issue and when people resort to sexually derogatory language, you never know when you may be speaking to someone who has been tortured in a military mind control program, because many of those people do post here and have been chased out in the past because of this very issue.

Anonymous said...

Also, my apologies if I came off a bit judgemental. I know there are still good people who read this blog and care about what is going on in the world, probabaly including yourself, but it can be easy to get bitter at times because of all the vicious infighting and personal attacks that are tolerated here.

skrambo said...

LVB - Agreed entirely.

Donny - You're out of your element.

Donny's creating a serious problem for this site and Ben, there's pretty much no way to ban an IP on blogspot and his only other choice is to turn comment moderation on, which means he'd have to accept or decline every single comment that gets made. One person is causing a whole lot of problems for an entire site and a comments section full of people. It's ridiculous.

skrambo said...

Anon - I was nearly "chased out" of this site almost a year ago by people who were making sexually derogatory comments towards me and insulting me for pointing out their rude behavior. Ben didn't do anything to them. Eventually they just left. He didn't have to kick them out. They weren't genuinely into this kind of research so they weren't going to stick around anyway. I'm sorry if you feel like I don't care about the people involved in this horrible situation, but that's not the case. I feel like there are people who disrespect the subject matter and I don't feel I'm one of them.

Anonymous said...

Well I didn't really classify you as being one way or the other when first responding to your comment. But the problem is that there are many other people who have asked Ben to delete sexually derogatory comments and he has flat out refused. You may have a thick skin but, like I was trying to say before, there are a lot of other people who weren't comfortable with the personal attacks and trolling so they left. These were long term members who had contributed a lot to this blog and were always respectful towards others. And as far as the Donny issue goes, what is the real reason for deleting his comments? Is it because he is annoying or is it because he has shown incredible disrespect to the other commenters here? Because if it is an issue of a lack of respect, how does resorting to sexually derogatory languuage express that idea to him?
THere is always the possibility that people can learn from the experience of being booted from a group of people, but that isn't going to happen if people here respond in as hateful of a manner towards him as he has shown to you.

LVB said...

One final tidbit...

His recent comment did remind me that apparently Joe Satriani is an "Illuminati Puppet", because (per Donny) he was spotted drinking a beer on one of his tour videos. I mean, seriously, this kind of degeneracy is compelling evidence, and must be stopped.

For anyone out there who is living in fear of such things, allow me to offer you just a little bit of comfort in knowing that it is possible to hear (and even enjoy) the music of people who may or may not be Illuminati puppets (and whether or not they drink beer), and still maintain control of one's mind and soul.

Especially in terms of primarily instrumental music (not involving alpha-state inducing strobe lights and synth patches) - and this is very, very important - as of this date, my research indicates (from both public and classified documents) that musical intruments have not (yet) evolved to the point where they actually know if the person playing them is or is not an Illuminatus and/or worships Satan.

Thus, you can comfortably listen to many instrumental songs without too much fear of it being a guitar, piano, violin or drum that is able to non-verbally control and recruit you, against your will.

Please stay alert, though, and if you begin to feel unnatural urges to drink beer, just get the hell out of there as fast as you can.

Lori said...

Hello

i plan on starting my blog soon hopefully. i have been doing modeling on and off for about 6 years now, and in during so, i started working for a fashion designer that knew how to find weak-minded indivuals and young girls. i am going to write all about that. he is in jail..but we used to go to all sorts of red carpet events, restaurants, sundance film festival,i went to india for an aids awareness tour with miss universe 2005 etc...he humiliated and would embarrass me and he also did other things as well. we were brainwashed to a certain degree, i will explain more about that aspect in my blog...he got arrested and i had to testify in court etc. i started noticing some very strange things happening with me, things i was trying to ignore at first but it got a little too coincedental for me that i started keeping note of specific things i experienced...i kind of wrote some things here and there but not everything, however i do intend too. its just how i feel that we can be spied on, how they can gain info about us etc. i have had people set up in my life as pawns, i have had been in situations where i felt it was set up, like a movie scene and everyone was the extras. i know it sounds crazy but this is what had my friend finally give me more info ( i remember hearing anand jon and company talk about the illuminati etc and they gave us a video to watch i could not watch it however because my eyes were really hurting)....but my friend who works on movies gave me links to illuminati, the bloodlines, mk ultra etc....i started reading about it but i just started coming to this site a few months ago....

more later..

skrambo said...

"THere is always the possibility that people can learn from the experience of being booted from a group of people, but that isn't going to happen if people here respond in as hateful of a manner towards him as he has shown to you."

That makes sense to me. I can admit that I let my emotions take hold when it comes to arguments, and who knows, I could be completely in the wrong for the way I present myself sometimes. This subject is a lot more personal to some people than I realize at times, and I will consider that in the future. It might have best if I hadn't take a stance in these matters at all, if it's only going to make me look like the type of person who I had such a hard time with a year ago.

Good luck with your work.

skrambo said...

Proofreading is not one of my strong points :P

LVB said...

anon

What you're missing and/or ignoring is the fact that Donny has earned every bit the disgust that people here, including myself, feel and have expressed.

This did not begin with people being mean to poor Donny - it began with Ben, especially, being very kind, understanding and far too patient with Donny, offering a little advice and support, and in my case, even offering some praise and encouragement about the guitar playing, as I mentioned before.

Our kindness, patience and supportive comments were met with further whining, begging and insults when people would not do as he commanded to visit and/or comment on his blog.

And I, for one, really do not appreciate your love for painting those you disagree with using the very misleading and incorrect label of being "hateful". You probably need to rethink that, and recognize that one can, and probably should, hate and reject Donny's reckless, provocative and highy offensive behavior - and what you've noticed here is the hatred for this behavior, not for the individual person, who may or may not be named Donny - because, very simply, all we see or know in this scenario is behavior, and it is beyond repulsive in his case.


The things I mentioned before were constant, and everyone here has grown justifiably and legitimately sick of it. Calling people ignorant jerks multiple times per day for weeks on end (for simply not obeying commands to visit his blog) is highly inappropiate and unwelcome, period.

I won't stand for it on my blog, and I would suspect that you wouldn't either, if you have/had one. So, you can seriously take your (perhaps well-intentioned, but ill-informed) defense of Donny elsewhere, because we know all too well how he consistently behaves; with nothing but malice and disrespect for others - and it is this behavior that is despised, not a human being who we don't even know.

I certainly don't, and won't speak for anyone else, but from what I gather, no one is interested in his blog, or hearing the details of his personal life; which significantly, is not the purpose of this blog's existence.

This leads us to probably the most important part of all this, which you are apparently missing. Donny never contributed anything (or even made any effort to, that I'm aware of) to any discussion. All I ever saw were constant pleas and demands to visit HIS blog, and plenty of unprovoked insults for all of us who committed the crime of not "caring" about his blog or personal life.

You may genuinely be one of those people who has deep empathy and compassion for an underdog, but regardless, it could not be any more misguided or misdirected, in this case. If you've got so much overflowing compassion, you should be consoling and sympathizing with us, who have put up with all this bullsh!t and abuse from him. lol

So, to reiterate - Ben and several other people here, including me, were far too kind to Donny, and received only more foolish behavior and abusive insults in return.

This sh!t just isn't going to fly here anymore, whether you (whoever you are) continue to blindly defend it or not. So, I'd suggest that you really make the effort to get your facts straight first, and then, if you still want to defend this sort of behavior, go right ahead, and we will be glad to know exactly where you stand and what you are all about.

From this moment forward, you will not be able to pretend you didn't know who it was that actually provoked all this sh!t, and who exactly was abusive and hateful to whom. :)

Lori said...

ok for example, i have been calling myself poison for quite some time, here is a link that they did singing about poison. they did this after they knew who i am, i know it sounds like it might be "hey just a coincedence", but it IS NOT!!! this one is a repeat, (but again it was made after i started calling myself poison)...oh and ALSO, when i was at comic-con, last year actually, i was walking around the awesomecon, which is tim and eric picnic, and the guy who sang the POISON song DID IN FACT SAY POISON!! as i walked by...i met people who work on the shows and they seem to hint that they are messing with me.

maybe i will post the ABSOLUTELY one too...

anyways, here is the song...at the time i was actually calling myself "poison apple" on my myspace page, and he sings, napples napples poison napples"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Re6pZri8Gw

here is the pic of me and the singer at comic-con WHEN I HEARD HIM SAY POISON!

i have more stories similar to this one and no they are not just coincedences!!!

((oh btw on king of the hill its the myspace episode he just said oh on myspace you get to know someone real quick)) heck im sure if someone omits alot of info on them like me, than why not? perhaps this show syndication is a sign, or do i just sound paranoid and delusional now? sorry i get ahead of myself when trying to explain things...

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=47381728&albumID=3016370&imageID=63520130

like i said i have more stories...

Lori said...

wow i just clicked on one of the links ben provides in the side and started reading this one again (i have read this site before i am pretty sure) it reminds me of what the new, or always been here, anonymous' has to say and yes it is a good example..

http://in2worlds.net/mind-control-themes-and-programming-triggers-in-movies

April 10, 2009 add-on: Just a few thoughts I wanted to put out there regarding the study of mind control symbolisms within entertainment, and its possible mind controlled entertainers. Since the initial posting of this write up back in 2006, the ‘net has exploded with many a blog and messageboard thread devoted to dissecting this subject. In many ways this is good – people are becoming aware that it’s not all just innocent, harmless, single layered “entertainment.” There is so much going on here, from social engineering agendas, to mind control programming, and even possibly mind controlling the entertainers themselves to be corporate owned and branded “slaves.” So the massive, worldwide spread of awareness of this is good in some ways. BUT!…..BUT!…..there’s also so much nonsense and useless, tail chasing malarky going on with it all. From what I’m seeing, so many people on messageboards or blogs are getting stuck in a pointless round and round with it all. For them, the knowledge isn’t a means to an ends, it IS the ends in itself. And what should the ends ideally be then? For me, it’s turning your back on it all, no longer buying into it because now a person knows what the deal is. But that’s just me. So instead of learning the basics and then moving forward, they just…..get stuck. Spotting the mind control and Illuminati symbolisms as well as the subjective and arbitrary “synchromysticism” aspects of it all become just another form of entertainment diversion for them. Sometimes to the point where they’re authoritatively declaring with confident bravado that so-and-so celeb is ABSOLUTELY or DEFINITELY mind controlled….merely because they suspect so. Or so-and-so is OBVIOUSLY a “handler” in their relationship with such-and-such. Or so-and-so was quite OBVIOUSLY killed in an actual ritual of sorts. Sometimes at the hands of their own loved ones. Even though they have zero proof for this, no evidence, and nothing to go on. Well, you don’t see that here. I don’t name names. I don’t point fingers. I’m not going to tell you “how things are.” All I’m going to do is tell you that what you see in this or that movie just so happens to match what was noted in this or that mind control research source, sometimes verbatim, so make of it what you will. But these people get so carried away with it all, like a train running off the rails. !!! You can tell they’re very hyper and excited about it all, and they respond to the material like children, with nobody to reel them in, relying on the safety of internet anonyminity to get away with claiming the things that they’re claiming with absolute authority. (speaking here about messageboards, where pretty much anything goes in terms of libel.) People love their entertainment, celebs, movies, TV shows, music and vids, and so the endless round and round study and speculation of the conspiracy surrounding it all is again, just another side of the entertainment diversion coin. Just because one is watching it with supposed awareness to “spot the conspiracy!” doesn’t mean they don’t run the same risk of getting ensnared by it all. Just something to keep in mind.
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LVB said...

Lori

That's some good and interesting stuff there.

It's going to be pretty hard for me to trust or ever look at Ben the same way again, now that he has been "exposed". LOL

skrambo said...

Just to be clear, I'm only apologizing to this anonymous stranger because he claims to be actively helping MK abuse victims. I don't agree with everything he has to say, I don't think we're being unfair to Donny and I don't think Ben is a disinfo agent.

LVB said...

Lori

That stuff can be really weird sometimes...but, you do realize that the word in question "poison" is one that is, and always has been, in very common and frequent usage, right?

I totally get what you're saying and all, especially with regard to the shows where you worked as a PA or as an extra, but yaknow it's not exactly like it's a really off the wall or rarely used word; like "rutabaga" or something. lol

Not saying you're wrong or crazy, at all, just you know, the more common the word is used, the greater the probability that not only you, but all of us will hear it - here, there and everywhere.

The stories you bring us are always interesting, though, so that makes it worthwhile, no matter what. :)

Anonymous said...

Good find Lori! I have my differences with the author of that site but imho she is spot on in her commentary there. And how weird that you posted it because I was just thinking about that particular blurb while writing some of these comments!

And thanks for the encouragement Tommy. It can definitely be challenging to take control of one's emotions, especially regarding situations like mind control which are already so charged to begin with. But it definitely pays off to pull back at times, if only so annoying people don't get you so pissed off. :)
I've kind of been having a hard time of it too, which is the reason for my bitter sounding posts this morning. ;)

Anonymous said...

About the Donny situation (sigh...I thought this was over?) I do remember people responding to him with a certain amount of disgust from the very beginning and I think that this escalated the situation unnecessarily. For example, when he first started posting as truth blogger 6 months ago, before any of the hostility started up, he came on here without any basic knowledge about blogs and with pretty poor grammar on top of that. So Ben responds to all his questions with a snide remark about how funny it is that Donny doesn't know what a url is. I thought that was kind of weird at the time because Donny hadn't yet expressed any disrespect and what is funny about some young kid who has obviously had a substandard education? If you offer to help someone and then mock them at the same time it kind of sends a mixed message. The thing is that if none of the commenters here had responded to him with so much hostility then maybe he would have been more likely to confront his own personal problems instead of blaming it all on the mean people over at pseudoccultmedia, which is all too easy for him to do at this point since so many people have responded to him with vile language.
And before people say I am defending him, let me just say that the kid had it coming for the comments about Miley alone. But the people here played their part too and there are two sides to the story.

skrambo said...

I see where you're coming from. We all could have handled things differently, in my opinion. I have a hard time taking sides concerning most things and confrontation in general, and since I have such a definite "stance" when it comes to things like mind control (which is somewhat hard for me to defend in a logical debate, which is why I do not claim to be a "full-on researcher", I don't have the brainpower or the emotional well-being) I do tend to let my emotions get out of hand, and I think a few of us are guilty of that. We have all been a bit defensive and it's a bad cycle that we're perpetuating by fighting fire with fire, and you're right, it goes against what we should be aiming for at sites like this one.

It's not my job to defend Ben, I think he can speak for himself whenever he wants to respond to your observations. I feel like I've done enough guesswork concerning him and what he wants for his blog.

cheers

LVB said...

anon

That's fair enough, I can work with that.

I will conclude by saying what I have many times, in a slightly different way. When I saw the rather lockstep response by the H+ (Transhumanist) people to my Imma Bee article after it was published on VC, I was a little taken aback, of course, but I can certainly live with opposing viewpoints, and indulged them a little, to try to explain a few things, although I knew the chances were slim to none of convincing the hardcore believers in their cult.

What I found was that the more accomodating and reasonable I tried to be, in conceding some points on a philosophical basis, if nothing else, the meaner they became, as well as the fact that it was not a two-way street by any means - I say ok I concede this or that, they wouldn't concede one word, not even with respect to the 100% factual research explaining the histories of the founders of Transhumanism (Huxley, et al), and their very racist and elitist views and motives, including eugenics, etc.

The point I tried to make to them is this: it's ok with me that you believe anything you want to, as I am not the boss of you, and and I do respect individual liberties. But, having said that, their very angry comments started to become adverts with links to their own blogs and articles and that sort of thing.

So, what VC and I decided was this - they can say what they like, but when they began using his vast readership and popularity as a vehicle to simply sell their own propaganda, which neither of us support, then they began having comments deleted, on that basis.

After their predictable cries of "censorship", I tried to make this simple, but very important point to them: say whatever you like, but do it on your own Transhumanist places. You won't ever find me harrassing people over there, or trying to use your place to get hits for my work.

That seems awfully fair to me.

Similarly, if Donny (or you, for that matter) so strongly dislike what Ben is doing, or the manner in which he does it, you are perfectly free to avoid it, and do whatever you want to do with a blog or website to counter it.

It's exactly the same deal. You won't find Ben or I going to Donny's place saying mean stuff or bothering him in any way. And what is really significant, in my mind, is the fact that this whole thing
would never have been this whole thing, if Donny had simply shown
the smallest amount of respect and maturity (at any point along the way) but most importantly when Ben nicely asked him, more than once, to please stop and to go elsewhere with all the pathological behavior.

If you kindly invite me to your home, and I behave in ways that you dislike and you ask that I leave, I will, because it is YOUR place. Those of us with any sense of decency (there's that word again) and integrity will do exactly that when they or their behavior is unwelcome.

It's really that simple. Ben has earned that respect, in my view, and deserves better than the way
he's been treated in this whole situation, both by Donny himself, and frankly, by you, in saying several of the things you have.

You do make an effort to appear reasonable, but truly, that repetitive propaganda about being "sadistic" and "hateful" is merely your opinion. It is fine to have an opinion, but you have stated it as though it were fact, and not something that is highly subjective and is almost entirely in the eye of the beholder.

Other than that, I think maybe we're cool...not that it really matter what I think, huh??!!

Thanks.

LVB said...

Hey Ben

I'm not sure if you check your generic email addr or comments more often, but I'll just give you this both places...maybe it will give you some further options.

http://www.bloggertipsandtricks.com/2006/10/how-to-ban-person-from-your-blog-or.html


also tommy, not sure if you have a blog, but if so, this may help you, too.

Benjamin S said...

To repeat, I went out of my way to help him for months and months I was extremely respectful to him, any "snide remarks" came after much desperation (I had already been in contact with him via email for a while before he commented and I had answered his questions about how to do things in blogger in emails so I was frustrated when he came back in asking the same basic stuff [that one in particular was born from frustration of the fact that he could have just typed that into google and had an answer in 0.24 seconds], but of course in hindsight we can all look back and think we could have handled things better, your incessant nitpicking on how I have handled things has only proved I am a flawed human and that you appear to have some kind of a vendetta against me). The "Donny situation" was over the moment I started deleting his comments, how do you not realize you have been the one who has continued it as you continue to do?

But to be honest, your self-righteous crusade against me is a little belligerent and I feel quite unfair (you have clearly been waiting for something like Donny to come along and pounce on me, which is evidenced by the repetitive comments you left after the altercations), despite your apparently noble pursuits (you also seem to have a lot of time on your hands to endlessly post here in the mean time which I find a little odd). I have already addressed your concerns re my so called "sadistic humor" and why I started deleting his comments.

I assume you will come back with more of the same spiel but I don't get what you hope to achieve here, don't you think you have made your point (again and again) and I have taken your (somewhat legitimate but greatly exaggerated) concerns on board, but feel free to continue to labour your point if you feel it is a good use of your time. Thank you, and I sincerely wish you all the best if you are doing what you say you are doing.

Anonymous said...

lori its zarqaa... you wrote something about that craig ferguson guy having rabbits on his show...theres a uk celebrity called paul o grady had a chat show i thought he had rabbits too but i googled it actually it was small dogs...my bad...hes probably intresting though, been famous over here donkeys years, had several shows, one as a drag queen called lily savage, he does pantomimes as well, but thats why i wanna know what ben thinks on him n clebs like bruce forsyth, des o connor ect...

that russel brand is gross, really sleazy been out with everyone and hes just yuck, never liked him, he's been knda famous over here for a while, a comidien of something but he's totally unfunny...i know this isnt right but had to mention whilst on topic, another commentor said they wouldnt be suprised if russel brand turned out to have HIV/AIDS...well ive often wondered those things, like people like amy winehouse and pete docherty (kate moss's ex) they're in and out of bed with loads of people, and intravenous drug users...well ive seen and read posters and leaflets in the heatlthcare centres with facts and figures relating to the percentage of people who have ever injected drugs even if its only once and like 80% of them will contract HIV or Hep C ...so we hear all these celebs injecting like lil' wayne, n hes obv having uprotected sex as well, i mean didnt he just have several babies born to differnt women recently?...so what dont htese people be afflicted with these things? i know obv weve heard of some..like freddie mercury and eazy e the rapper from NWA...but it stikes me as odd...sti rates in uk are at an all time high, clinics are struggleing to cope with the high demand for sexual health services and even in the last ten years are unable to offer the same level of treatment they did, and this is fact, i have family members that work in one in greater london, eleven years ago you used to go in, the doctor would examine you and take all swabs and then you would get a result if possible there and then, all other swabs went off to the lab, and had a 14 day wait, if needed treatment was given and then once the course was completed you had to return to the clinic to be re-screened to ensure the infection was gone. nowadays, the patient goes in and is very lucky if a doctor actually screens them, usually they are given one swab in a packet and sent in a toilet to do it themselves, some results are still given same day but there is no recall to be re-swabbed after the course of treatment.

okay back to point...chlamydia and other std's are rife in todays society...these bed hopping stars...surely they must be as rife amongst them also??...and as for the HIV thing everyone knows pete docherty, amy winehouse inject drugs, both have been pictured with terribly sore looking infected puss filled fingers and stuff and look like theyve slept in a rubbish dump, ????

ban have you ever heard of Alicia Duvall??...addicted to plastic surgery, she looks absolutely terrible, i first saw her pic years ago when she was dating puff daddy and she was incredibly plastic then for a young woman, shes also dated usher apparantly, i dont know what she looks like pre surgery, never found a pic, but i mean she doesnt look pretty with the surgery, and she talks with a british accent, always wondered how she ended up in america, with those celebs...

Anonymous said...

i meant ben have you heard of alicia duvall?

and lori...thats what ive always wondered with these playboy playmates girlfriends ect...like the std factor...i mean like say hef met kendra at a party when she was dressed as a painted lady so the story goes, the next day or something he asked her to move into the mansion, not saying she did but i wonder about the std thing, maybe its wierd i wonder about those things but on that playboy show i saw episode the other day, Bridgit says youre either a one night stand or you become a girlfriend....so okay...some of the one night stands must bring infections to the bed????

does anyone remember that mtv cartoon 'Beavis and Butthead' ? watched it other night, theyre just like thick and brainwashed, illeterate, watch mtv all day, butthead wears an AC DC tshirt with the lightning bolt inbetween.

Anonymous said...

i think the annonymous mouthpiece whos going on and on about explicit sexual comments and backing donny is the one and same venus in pieces that was here a while ago, it would fit the comments about others have been chased away from this site due to sexually derogative comments, and explain the problem that anon has with ben, venus in pieces had the face on about similar issues a few weeks ago....

Lets Not Fart Rainbows Here said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Not an MK link but interesting to see who around here fits the definition.

Anonymous said...

Tommy- I appreciate the Big Lebowski reference.

:)

Anonymous said...

Ben, The point of me continuing to leave comments is to provoke discussion about the issue of dehumanization and how counterproductive this is in any geuine activist community. And actually I have far less spare time than you would imagine, as I am pretty much constantly multi tasking. This conversation has taken up more of my time than I had originally intended but as long as people continue to respond in a respectful way then I will reply to them. It seems like you are trying to make some kind of subtle insinuation about my character and motivation while apparently well wishing my projects. This also comes directly after you have accused me of lying without responding to my question about exactly what I was lying about. So if you take some kind of issue with me why don't you just come out and say it instead of being passive agressive?
If you are upset because I have a problem with you, then maybe you could think about why it is that you're generating such criticism in the first place. Could it have anything to do with the derogatory comments that you have written about people here or the way you have tolerated abuse amongst the other commenters? You still haven't addressed the apparent inconsistency of deleting Donny's posts while leaving other, equally abusive posts in place. Again, this seems to be mainly an issue of popularity where favored members are allowed to pretty much say whatever they want even if they are hurting others.

And as for invading someone's home, this is not someone's home, it is a public forum where the laws of free speech apply, so I have every right to be here expressing my opinion.

... said...

The latest Rolling Stone article with Gaga...quote:
When presented with the idea that her behavior indicates she's a survivor of a traumatic experience, Gaga says there are limits to what she'll discuss in public. "You have to be careful about how much you reveal to people that look up to you so much."
Unquote

I wonder where the interviewer got that question from???? ;-)

Marty/MK

Anonymous said...

jesus christ, anon above will you just let it go!!!!!

really pissing me off now

ben i wouldn't bother arguing any further. best to just ignore this idiot, what you have said is clearly not getting through their thick as pig shit skull.

Anonymous said...

@said

well, i think shes pretty much admitted there to being mk'd.

Benjamin S said...

Yeah Marty, pretty interesting interview (the interview also brought up Christina's accounts of abuse to push her to talk more about it after she said she probably wouldn't ever talk about it), and the big quote on that page they went with, directly below the pic of her bowing down to the Queen was, "There are some things that are so traumatic in my past, I don't even fully remember them." Though then goes onto say how she was never abused and how wonderful her mother and father were, and she says that she is not a victim, which I guess you would expect her to say due to the programming.

Anonymous said...

anon no one cares, bens cool n ure just dragging on much ado about nothing, ben was being nice and helping donny and donny was acting absurdly, ben only deleted comments once he'd had enough of donny and why shouldnt he? whos blog is it anyway? why are you sticking your neck on the line for donny, do you know him?, donny just acts disrespectful, and going on about his blog, and cussing everyone who was initially nice to him, lori for example was supportive of him n then he turned round and cussed her too for no bloody reason, ive been reading this whole thing, ive read his comments and bens and everyone elses, on other occasions ive seen ben explain himself far more than he has to, and as far as i can tell he's a reasonable guy, why should he expalin anything to anyone? even when you email him he emails back with his detailed point of veiw, so he's not no ghost, whenever ive emailed vigilant citizen im still waiting for a reply..not that theres anythign wrong with that obv. vigilant doesnt do private messaging, so my point is thats because he doesnt have to, this isnt a business, ben isnt providing a service, theres no customer care regulations in place, its a blog on the internet, an annoymous blog, by a faceless guy we know as benjamin singleton, and yes he tells us snippets of his life incorporated into his blog, what he does for holidays, what hes studying and even that benjamin singleton is his birth name, if thats the truth, who knows maybe he's not called ben at all, this point is we dont know who he is, or anything about him, whatever he tells you if you chooses to believe it you do so in good faith. Ben has never set himself up to be this spiritual leader for all to go to for compassio, advice and mental support, he just studies his intrest in this subject and writes it down as he chooses with his own narrative style, he's never offended me and comes across as a quite likeable character, i dont know why you think he should have to expalin anything to you, or prove anything to anybody, who are you to think your so important? youre an anonymous blog commentator, bens old enough now probably hes not under any obligation to expain why he does anything even to people he knows so who are you, how do you even know if ben's close friends and family even know about him writing this blog?

okay im way off subject anyway i just have a tendancy to go off at a tangent, sorry but serious if you dont like how people are treated here or the comments people leave just dont visit this site, you just sound like a ridiculous, miserable old fart, with nothing better to do than complain to ben about something that is his own business, if he wants to delete donnys comments so what mind your own business, if this was a business, like a shop or bar or something and donny was his customer and ben banned him from the store ben would be within his rights to do so but even though this isnt its bens business what he does with his blog n if you dont like it get lost. zarqaa

Anonymous said...

Wow...

That was pretty mean.

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Anonymous said...

I would like to relate my story here. My own family is tryinh to trigger me. I look into their eyes and nothing there is but hate. If there are any real people in the east cost area please contact me. I could really use a friend or two.


-poodleface

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Lori said...

hi

first of all, about the poison thing, yes it is easy to say its common name, but when something happens to you and your gut feeling tells you it is aimed at you, you just know!! at first i ignored the synchronicities, i ignored all the subliminal messages they were sending me, but i know that those signs are out for me, i just do if i sound crazy or whatever, so be it. keep in mind, while i was walking past the singer who sang the poison song, he actually did say, POISON! what the heck you know? i did not include some of the strange things that happened the previous year at awesomecon, and comic con, which were aimed at me....lest assured you, i am not hopeful about these things, it just truly occurs. i go by poison on the adult swim forums as well, so they surely know who i am, believe me. and like i said, I DO HAVE MUCH MUCH MORE STORIES of weird things

Anonymous said...

Chameleons are a highly specialized group of lizards. There are about 85 different species known to us. Physically they all have protruding eyes that move independently, bodies flattened from side to side and a very flexible prehensile tail that acts like a 'fifth arm'

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Lori said...

hi zarquaa...

i am assuming that alot of celebrities have or had stds and gotten them treated. amy winehouse does not look healthy at all, i am sure there are some celebs out there who are infected with HIV..

im sure hugh hefner has had every sort of disease out there...hes been around for decades.

i do think it is kind of weird how now craig ferguson has a white rabbit puppet. oh he also has a snake mug he has referred to as poisonous. ok, i will calm down about the poison mumbo jumbo, but seriously, i dont just make this stuff up to interest me...im telling you!!!

and why wouldnt these people NOT be coming here? hey, im sure these comments alone are quite interesting...

sometimes i feel this whole thing is some sort of 'social experiment"

LVB said...

anon

This actually IS someone's
"house", Ben's. And you are quite confused and mistaken about this notion of yours that free speech means you can say whatever, wherever, whenever you choose.

In terms of free speech laws, it is actually a site's owner/admin who has the free speech rights, or discretion, to run their site as they see fit, including the right to exclude certain material or people, which do not conform to the site owner's requirements for what they want their own site to say, and be.

The only thing you have here is a privilege, granted by the owner, and the owner can allow you to enjoy this privilege, or he can choose to revoke this privilege, for his own reasons and at the time of his choosing.

The tragedy in all this is that a blog owner should even have to do that, once they have requested that someone like you or Donny please take a hike.

Your hostility and false judgements are unwelcome, and this has been made very clear to you, so you really should have the decency (I love that word!), respect and common sense to pack it up and stop expecting Ben to provide you with a place to attack and criticize Ben.

If you can handle being giggled at, please make some calls to a few attorneys and ask them to explain to you what free speech rights you have on another person's blog or website - especially when your intent is clearly just to cause trouble for that blog owner.

You see, it is actually the blog owner who has the free specch rights, to control and manage what is on their blog. In terms of legal status, as commenters, we are merely along for the ride, at the discretion of the blog owner.

Free speech rights have a lot more to do with the freedom to say (or worship freely, which was actually the original legal purpose) WHAT you want to, with several types of restrictions on the WHERE and WHEN aspects of it.

It's kind of sad that this isn't just intuitive and understood via some level of common sense, but here's a little snippet to further your education:

Q: "But the forum moderator edited some of my comments, deleted others and is being a jerk! Please tell me all the legal claims I might have against them so I can sue them into the ground."

A: "Being a jerk is not a reason to sue someone. Nor is there a claim against blog hosts for exercising their free speech rights to control their forums. If you don’t like what someone is doing, you can start your own blog and express your opinions there."


Wow, I never thought I'd find the ACLU types agreeing with ME!!! Did you catch that last part - "if you don't like what someone is doing"...start your own f-cking blog and express your f-cking opinions (and they are merely opinions) there!! That's just really poetic, ain't it?? lol

Sorry to burst your little bubble, but yaknow several of us gave you this sound advice multiple times now.

Looking forward to your blog. Heck, I might even decide to go there covertly and act up, just to see if you handle it with "human decency", as Ben does. :)

Lori said...

personally i do not want to see any comments which are sexually derogatory either, this should be a place of mature, respectful discussion, and good debate. we shouldnt have to resort to immature, beligerent tactics here.

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Benjamin S said...

Okay Venus you've made your point "about the psychological abuse that occurs here", everyone gets it, I've deleted those latest two comments from today that made you lose it last time. I make no apologies for my email to you, the comments I deleted were not even in the same ballpark (i.e. someone using my name and describing the most depraved things you can imagine which I would not repeat, not just accusing me of being gay or anything similar) compared to someone doing a play on words to get at you (which you readily rose to and reacted to in a way that I felt was completely over the top and made things a lot worse, hence the "troller's dream" line), the blog was under attack by a number of trolls at the time and I wasn't sure how to react (like I said I probably made mistakes in this regard and should have acted quicker to delete comments instead of waiting for it to pass, which it eventually did); after a while I decided it was in the past and decided to leave it alone. Obviously it says a lot how you have gone about acting on your personal grudge towards me in the past few days/week and I will not be drawn into it further.

skrambo said...

"Tommy- I appreciate the Big Lebowski reference."

Thanks, I was hoping someone would. :)

Venus - Thanks for going back to your username, I was growing tired of addressing an anonymous person. As for Ben not deleting the harsh anonymous comment above - It's to be expected. Ben seems to be very much against censorship in any way, and only does it when he must. I know that if I had someone repeatedly insulting me on my blog, I would most likely delete their comments. I think he is a bit unwilling to delete the anonymous comment because you've taken a side against him and he feels he doesn't need to do that for you and you should be able to handle it, I mean, if we're all supposed to just deal with what Donny was slinging at us every day.

Just trying to bridge gaps here.

Anonymous said...

Clue....JT Leroy in the comments section with a keyboard.....

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289176/Mystery-talented-young-model-dead-bed-boyfriend.html

C.

Aleksandra said...

I would love to see your sexual derogatory comments(whatever the hell that means).And I haven't seen anyone posting bullshit over here except for Donny and anon which happens to be Venus.
@Venus What pisses me off about you the most it that you actually don't even give a fuck about Donny,he's just your tool for attacking Ben for something he didn't do way back.I haven't noticed any sexually insulting comments on this post nor the post before(and I think even the post before that one) and you are still bringing it up.If you had some traumas they obviously effect the way of your thinking and the way you act with other people and they stop you from acting in a rightful maner.I guess that you were probably very mistreated thru your life and now everytime someone somehow disagrees with you in any way you seems to take it as another attack right at what hurts you the most.But you have to understand that by not letting but by directing those comments right at where you are the most sensitive(i suspect your sexuality?) you are only hurting yourself.
You should just continue to write about the topics you want in your own blog and don't give a fuck about people who don't like or don't believe in what you write and stop wasting your energy on them instead of on people who do care about what you write and know.
And you have to understand that this is a virtual simulation of a real life society.If people who are survivors of MK and any other abuse feel uncomfortable with the comments and viewpoints of people,just means that they are not ready to go into a society and have not yet recovered enough.
And this blog,first and foremost was NOT MENT FOR ABUSE SURVIVORS it is for "COMMON PEOPLE" so they can get educated about MK and the things going on secretly in the world and then figure out what could be done to help them.As a matter of fact this blog is not at all recommended for abuse survivors and is crated in a way that we,"common people" can understand your problem.

Anonymous said...

^^ kudos!

Lori said...

yeah as far as the whole donny thing goes, lets just stop talking about it...he was banned because of his lack of empathy and dignity and respect towards others...

this picture just struck me of michael jackson...(thanks to the link c. provided about the model)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1289158/Michael-Jackson-picture-auction-LaToya-insists-death-murder.html

he reminds me of when you look in a casket at someone you once knew, how they look totally different because the skin is super smooth, the makeup is super heavy...and the blue over his one eye is suggestive..

latoya has been saying lately how he was killed because he was worth more in death now than if he were still alive, so she is basically saying greed is what killed him...

i dont know?

Lori said...

also what is the deal with courtney love? she talks about memory loss in the end of the clip and says 'rophynol'

http://perezhilton.com/2010-06-24-lols-courtney-loves-behind-the-music#respond

(its at the end)

Aleksandra said...

@Lori I'm not sure if by worth Latoya meant money.The media had constantly tried to manipulate the mases with MJ but he was somewhat aware of their plan and people still believed him.This just means that MJ's death can be used for their goal,though I'm not sure whatever the hell their goal is,but it has to do something with programming us.
I believe that there are certain events that happen just to test us in how far we went in our programming.They just realese a extremely balant and stupid music video or movie and then they wait for the reaction of the audience.If we love it then that means that their first goal was achived and then expect soon a new name in the media to show up which will have another type of programming made for us.I'm not ready and not sure how to explain my theory but I'm sure I'll figure it out soon.

Heel of Tequila said...

@Aleksandra 12:13

Well said!!!

Anonymous said...

Please do Taylor swift. shes been acting super odd since the VMA's. I saw an interview of her saying she was going to have a GIANT BIRD CAGE in her house and butterflies. Does that mean she's a monarch slave, too?

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