tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post9217252051414218058..comments2024-03-27T18:21:26.143-07:00Comments on Pseudo-Occult Media: Lady GaGa's Dissociation from Papa's RocketUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-59464997343603940652009-06-10T13:42:58.892-07:002009-06-10T13:42:58.892-07:00That article seems to support most of what I'v...That article seems to support most of what I've been saying about high fashion/entertainment industry, in terms of the abuse/manipulation/exploitation; I don't know why you 100% think she is "satirizing" those individuals specifically, surely it is more about the abuse/manipulation/exploitation (there are FAR MORE 'broken robots' than Rihanna [particularly models; I've posted a lot of this kind of robot imagery, obviously they're not all 'satirizing' Rihanna!], GaGa is a broken robot herself it seems clear to me) in the industry as a whole... but if you think these articles (remember all these kind of quotes are very controlled, should not be taken as gospel "Lady GaGa said to include this in the video so we did") proves you 100% right in your mind then that's cool.Benjamin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474017723701619280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-49172279990233431832009-06-10T13:03:08.691-07:002009-06-10T13:03:08.691-07:00Like i said SATIRE.
Broken robot, wheelchair = R...Like i said SATIRE. <br /><br />Broken robot, wheelchair = Rhianna. <br /><br />Disney allusions, Hate her/Love her headlines = Britney <br /><br />etc. etc etc .... <br /><br />http://jezebel.com/5285868/questions-about-the-high-fashion--domestic-violence-in-lady-gagas-videoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-45880512594474501302009-06-02T13:57:14.872-07:002009-06-02T13:57:14.872-07:00No need to apologize, Ben. You can't possibly com...No need to apologize, Ben. You can't possibly comment on everything ever posted in the comments section. But thank you for responding to the Marilyn Manson part. (It sounds like you've read the interview - ain't he quite the charmer with his abortion jokes? Not.)<br /><br />Anon (same as 01 June 2009 13:05)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-4450531884103114872009-06-02T11:15:40.136-07:002009-06-02T11:15:40.136-07:00dont know what to think.dont know what to think.Elpistolerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15246643397540218671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-54832058113996137812009-06-02T10:17:52.338-07:002009-06-02T10:17:52.338-07:00Ah sorry I had a very vague recollection of it it ...Ah sorry I had a very vague recollection of it it being mentioned somewhere but forgot (annoyed at myself for not searching as I've just found your comment now easily). Product placement is always a given, just watch some of Pussycat Dolls' videos I've posted! Campari, specific make of mobile phones, laptops etc (in the last one anyway). <br /><br />MM is a very likely at least a handler, he turned up to GaGa's photoshoot with some absinthe it says :| (I'm about to post a little on that used in an MK movie/thing on one of the Playboy chicks [more double headed eagle/masks and shit in that "film" too]) I've mentioned him a lot in relation to Disney/Mickey Mouse/etc; that reminds me a little of his magazine article/photo-spread with Lily Cole (she plays Alice in MM's Phantasmagoria: Visions of Lewis Carroll coming out in 2010), here's a few images from it, <A HREF="http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6779/mansonlily.jpg" REL="nofollow">1</A> <A HREF="http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2213/mv3c.jpg" REL="nofollow">2</A> <A HREF="http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2965/lilycolefashionrocks3sa.jpg" REL="nofollow">3</A> <A HREF="http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6749/lilycolefashionrocks6lo.jpg" REL="nofollow">4</A>. Should give you an idea about his role. It's not nice to think about but it seems obvious that he fucked/used/abused Lily like he outright says he wants to do the same to GaGa in the article. [+ I linked to his new video <A HREF="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9amof_marilyn-manson-arma-god-damn-mother_music" REL="nofollow">Arma Fucking God Damn Geddon</A>; obviously his name invokes Mickey Mouse MM + Marilyn Monroe/Charles Manson (all characters heavily associated with MK)]<br /><br />And yeah 08:37 absolutely.Benjamin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474017723701619280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-89016821791026347992009-06-02T08:37:04.843-07:002009-06-02T08:37:04.843-07:00Did it ever occur to anyone that you can be under ...Did it ever occur to anyone that you can be under control and still appear independant,depending on how they market you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-81180766335587214092009-06-01T13:05:51.327-07:002009-06-01T13:05:51.327-07:00I had mentioned those weird Neuro drinks back on t...I had mentioned those weird Neuro drinks back on the May 7th Lohan post of this year. I just had a feeling that if she was getting paid to promote them, someone or some entity with alot of money wants to foist this new kind of "pimp juice" on the masses. Gaga seems to promote other stuff, too, as I've clearly noticed a bottle of Campiari (sp?) in the "LoveGame" video. (Blatant promotion isn't new; I seem to recall some Alicia Keys video which was like a commercial for at least 3 different products...)<br />Also, in the new Rolling Stone cover story, Marilyn Manson is flirting with Gaga in his typical gross manner. I wonder if he's a handler of sorts and encouraged the Mickey Mouse imagery that he's been known to sport as well?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-68675667641500280652009-05-31T14:32:38.323-07:002009-05-31T14:32:38.323-07:00Yes a lot of this is about intuition and common se...Yes a lot of this is about intuition and common sense (won't repeat what I've said many times about not everyone being MK'd, you have to use your intuition to interpret the symbolism correctly [I've never said checkerboard floor automatically = MK/dissociation for instance ((though it does have those properties it's mainly to do with Freemasonry + duality symbolism they obsess over)); that comment you made about it = my MK "going by what the logic of this whole blog" is COMPLETELY inaccurate and makes me question your motives ((as I'd literally just said in reply to you that even the monarch butterfly + MM imagery does not automatically = MK; and the checkerboard floor is far less associated with MK than the butterfly))] etc). Interesting discussion anyway despite the fact I feel you generally misinterpret where I'm coming from hugely and I'm not sure why (I feel I've put my points across clearly and you pretty much agree with them on the most part).<br /><br />I'm a big Radiohead "fan" and am completely aware of the colossal amount of MK in their lyrics (how to disappear completely [dissociation], jigsaw falling into place, like spinning plates, scatterbrain, paranoid android [funny you should mention them as I'd just been screencapping 'Paranoid Android' and 'Street Spirit' videos for future posts; getting a Radiohead post up isn't up in my list of priorities though atm], climbing up walls, bodysnatchers, where i end and you begin etc... ffs even the short interludes on the bonus disc of 'In RAINBOWS' are titled 'MK 1' and 'MK 2' ;p, I've never once thought of them as being MK'd (though who knows; like I said we can't and it isn't really about proving it either way [it's much bigger than any one individual/group]). I've pretty much accepted listening to so much RadioHEAD over the years has influenced/programmed me a lot (done lot's of 'switching off' on long journeys listening to OK Computer and such). They are obviously very aware of what's going on in the world (not sure if they're onside or just wise to what's going on; doesn't really bother me either way you can still appreciate good art/music) with songs like 'up on the ladder'/'pyramid song' and many other extremely politically/socially aware ones, I've done a little post with some fanmade symbolic Radiohead videos (mainly for the lyrics though) <A HREF="http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2008/06/radiohead.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> (sadly the best 2 of the 4 are broken; I intend on doing something with Radiohead's official videos in the future), which is a good example of how just having 'MK themes' does not mean that they are MK'd (which again I've repeated many times in my responses).Benjamin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474017723701619280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-54129158363259657192009-05-31T13:55:28.726-07:002009-05-31T13:55:28.726-07:00Yeshua said... "I think a lot of what Gaga does is...Yeshua said... "I think a lot of what Gaga does is satirical. "<br /><br />Thank you, that's what i really meant, satirical, not so much theatrical (this too though), just couldn't think of the word at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-15346509505741701332009-05-31T13:52:02.344-07:002009-05-31T13:52:02.344-07:00Creative people are usually really weird and i can...Creative people are usually really weird and i can see how they might be easy to take advantage of and manipulate, but there's also very creative people who are so fucking neurotic and dark that they don't need Satan to come knocking on their door telling them what symbolism to put out there, they are pretty well read. I write "they" because artists usually have a pretty big network of collaborators to trade ideas with, exchange/pitch music/lyrics to each other etc. <br /><br />If people knew how to communicate with each other they wouldn't be putting all this crap out there, but also it would be a pretty boring world if there was no "art" i suppose. And this is coming form someone who doesn't really listen to music anymore, at least not any american music and/or anything recorded after 2000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-78215173637303399562009-05-31T13:32:17.715-07:002009-05-31T13:32:17.715-07:00"She doesn't seem too smart at all to me. More of ..."She doesn't seem too smart at all to me. More of a dumb "slag" (hope I've used that term correctly), and I don't think it's an act at all. If this is what you consider to be theater, go see a real play and get back to me. There is nothing intellectual gained from this woman's charades, it is an illusion, it is trickery, sorcery, whatever you want to call it."<br /><br />Yes, have been to the theatre. Like i (well, SHE said) it's PERFORMANCE, maybe bad theatre, bad performance but it's still her acting someone's (or a lot of people's lives out in more extreme ways Dadaism also comes to mind. Totally agree with the trickery and sorcery, all of entertainment is pretty much that. Actors act out regular people's lives in movies, not their own lives, they're playing out you and me and our neighbors lives. So are musicians, ect. at some point, a writer will get tired of talking about their failed relationship and their erectile disfunction's and focus on other people. Take someone like Radiohead, who have really dark themes in their music, are they Mk'd? Have you seen their videos? pretty fucked up stuff, but i highly doubt those people are told what to do. Same with Bjork. Anyway i'm sooo rambling, so sorry.<br /><br />I'm not picking on Ben. I was using an example of something he said here to echo his belief that we really don't know, really, if these people are mk'd, and then i offered further that, unless you speak to the person and see what their thinking patterns are and behaviour that, you shouldn't assume. For example Brit has made really bad choices in life, so that tells me she'd be very easy to manipulate and i do not see her as a creative person at all. She's been in the spotlight for most years of her life and there isn't seem to be a creative bone in her body, besides learning someone else's choreography and singing someone else's lyrics. Now, Lady Gags (hate to defender but, i'm trying to make a point) seems like a pretty creative person and to tell you the truth seems also like a total bitch lol, and not as easy to manipulate as the other "kids"<br /><br />I agree with you about the other stuff, don't get irritated, i am just offering another layer of looking at all of this not canceling but adding that artists now have a lot more power in their own careers unlike people like Marilyn and Elvis. Things have changed a lot. There's a lot more creative freedom. <br /><br /><br />as an aside: The Nickelodeon kids are being kept away from the Disney kids because the Disney kids are "tainted" (no shit!) <br /><br />^^^^^^^^^^yikes, don't blame you if you don't want to read all of that.<br /><br />edit: re: lady gaga/La Chapelle @ Perez, yes i can totally see what you're saying Ben but like you said we don't really know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-73860348568564076172009-05-31T13:15:48.248-07:002009-05-31T13:15:48.248-07:00Hehe, she must be in full creative control then, P...Hehe, she must be in full creative control then, Perez Hilton has 100% confirmed it! ;p <A HREF="http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/search/label/David%20LaChapelle" REL="nofollow">David LaChapelle</A> (who took and STAGED the photos ["now sit over here Ms GaGa and look deep in thought... that's it, now hold the pen over the storyboards like you are creating them... perfect!", why would she be wearing sunglasses, that makes no sense... must just be because GaGa is so original and 'off-the-wall' ^^]) I've posted a few of LaChapelle's symbolic fashion photos in the past (click name to see the images to give you an idea of where this guy is coming from).Benjamin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474017723701619280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-70409122355609153092009-05-31T12:49:16.820-07:002009-05-31T12:49:16.820-07:00Ummm....
http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-31-an-ar...Ummm....<br /><br /><br />http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-31-an-artist-at-workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-84882397238478000522009-05-30T20:03:56.647-07:002009-05-30T20:03:56.647-07:00To one of the commenters, thanks for the info abou...To one of the commenters, thanks for the info about Lina Morgana, very interesting.<br /><br />Ben, you may have a point about the "Papa" thing. There's a lot of "Pop"/"Papa" references in Lady Gaga's screen projections. Watch this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO8wa1En000<br /><br />As far as Gaga's level of control, I don't know. I would assume she has more of a say than someone like Britney, but you never know. She could just be marketed as a more savvy and in control artist. A lot of the times they market artist as "independent" or "controversial" for people who are more attracted to that. They are not stupid, they know everyone has different taste, and they have candy to satisfy everyone's sweet tooth. <br /><br />However, I believe Gaga is involved with the construction of her image in the same way Madonna was. If you research their careers they were both doing shows before they got signed. The theatrical elements were already there, they were just expanded once the fame and money came into the picture. <br /><br />When I watched "Paparazzi" I did think of Britney. I think a lot of what Gaga does is satirical. She seems to be aware, to a certain extent, of the disposable pop machine and the ridiculousness of fame. But then again, that could all be marketing. She could be just as much controlled as Britney.MK Culturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12326299052456871968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-81670482718000272062009-05-30T19:54:09.894-07:002009-05-30T19:54:09.894-07:00To me Lady Gaga is theatre. It's like magick, put ...<I>To me Lady Gaga is theatre. It's like magick, put it out there, she's saying 'i'm aware and this won't happen to me because i am too smart and i know what i'm doing' Like she said, performance.</I>She doesn't seem too smart at all to me. More of a dumb "slag" (hope I've used that term correctly), and I don't think it's an act at all. If this is what you consider to be theater, go see a real play and get back to me. There is nothing intellectual gained from this woman's charades, it is an <I>illusion</I>, it is trickery, sorcery, whatever you want to call it. <br /><br /><I>You said once your house has checkerboard floors, so if someone doesn't know you or has spoken to you they can assume you are mk'd, (going by what the logic of this whole blog) they'd think your parents put the floor there to disassociate you and abuse you.</I>You should be connecting the "checkerboard floors in nearly every house" thing (connected with Masonry, free or otherwise) with control, not the people who buy the houses and live in them. That's what irritates me, when people take this stuff out of context. The context here is that this shit is being pumped into th minds of the young as entertainment, whereas Ben's blog is <I>not</I>. When someone is attempting to show you the use of these symbols in mediums which are already known to reduce us to status-quo-slaves, why are you focusing on the messenger, not the message? (Granted, we really have to focus on both aspects now, but seriously, it's Ben's business if he's been fucked with, not yours. He's not displaying his face on every city street, you know.)skrambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191438272527747356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-56216355726383672112009-05-30T19:06:58.662-07:002009-05-30T19:06:58.662-07:00Some people are even saying on youtube comments fo...Some people are even saying on youtube comments for the song "wunderland" that Lina Morgana is Lady GaGa.. they do have similar poses...and look..sort of..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-77588201924220607212009-05-30T18:44:33.039-07:002009-05-30T18:44:33.039-07:00Lady Gaga wrote the songs "wunderland" a...Lady Gaga wrote the songs "wunderland" and "spin U around" for an upcoming artist named Lina Morgana who died tragically October 4th 2008. Nobody can find info about how she died online, almost like there's a cover up or something!<br /><br />Anyway check out Lina's myspace:<br />http://www.myspace.com/linamorgana<br /><br />and she also has a few videos on youtube: <br /><br />Song/Music Video: Far Away<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuCFwS_n7To&feature=related<br /><br />Song: Wunderland<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKhgj3jaYWA<br /><br />I some how think Lady GaGa is a victim and also a handler who writes songs about what other artists are going through with their mind control programming, which explains the name of the song titles.<br /><br />I wonder how Lina died!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-42946133741701062472009-05-30T15:31:56.166-07:002009-05-30T15:31:56.166-07:00hmm...she does love the pee cock
http://fashaddix...hmm...she does love the pee cock<br /><br />http://fashaddix.com/tag/katy-perry-peacock-dress/<br /><br />http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2009/04/29/st-we-wanna-get-katy-perrys-matthew-williamson-for-hm-peacock-dress/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-5262188939788406132009-05-30T14:49:48.622-07:002009-05-30T14:49:48.622-07:00http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/05/30/i-think-...http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/05/30/i-think-i-saw-god-in-katy-perrys-pelvis/<br /><br />ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-14502051368730645022009-05-30T14:20:59.594-07:002009-05-30T14:20:59.594-07:00"How can we know which are mindless puppets, which..."How can we know which are mindless puppets, which are playing along, which are allowing themselves to be manipulated"<br /><br />We don't know really but Britney seems too stupid, Gaga doesn't. Just a feeling i get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-67978555875487330412009-05-30T14:19:07.582-07:002009-05-30T14:19:07.582-07:00Entertainment biz = is like The Imaginarium of Dr....Entertainment biz = is like The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnasus (or whatever that movie is called) they're preying on people's illusions, reflecting and distracting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-22986431904922444352009-05-30T14:08:56.014-07:002009-05-30T14:08:56.014-07:00I posted the Faces of Eve thing and the teacup. If...I posted the Faces of Eve thing and the teacup. If i remember correctly the teacup under the house and her freakout was about her mother forcing her to kiss her dead grandmother, which i read is something people used to do to send the dead away with love and good wishes ( i think people still do it). But she was a child, and she didn't want to do it, huge difference between forcing someone to do something and someone wanting to do it. I don't think her mom was meaning to traumatize her on purpose to abuse her but whatever the case, that was the cause of her dissasociation/splitting.<br /><br />Myabe i need to watch the movie again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-62075492160302548332009-05-30T14:00:47.622-07:002009-05-30T14:00:47.622-07:00" I don't think you should assume that all of them..." I don't think you should assume that all of them are onside/in on it,"<br /><br />i don't.<br /><br />"by showing the constant repetition of these themes I hopefully am making some people realize they are used with conscious intent and are beginning to recognize the mentality of the people behind it [and also showing the dark stuff going on this world which they are heavily involved in i.e. sexual slavery/organized child abuse/programming/etc])"<br /><br />i totally agree.<br /><br /><br />"But for me it isn't about "proving" these individuals are MK'd (I accept I am probably a little hasty when calling some of these performers outright slaves) as we can NEVER really know for sure,"<br /><br />unless you know some/have spoken to some of these people personally. <br /><br />You said once your house has checkerboard floors, so if someone doesn't know you or has spoken to you they can assume you are mk'd, (going by what the logic of this whole blog) they'd think your parents put the floor there to disassociate you and abuse you. Then you said the person who lived there must have been mk'd because they put the floor down in the house. <br /><br />I don't disagree with any of the stuff you post here all i'm saying is, some of these people have the smarts to know exactly what they are doing and have the power to say "wouldn't it be cool to wear this mickey mouse outfit to fuck with people" <br /><br />Why would she be acting out her own demise? This reminds me of a message board i used to read of a band where there was a poster saying the singer was singing about his relationship to one of the members of the band, as it was happening in real life, and that they were gay (she thought this because she was herself gay and projecting on to them her own desires.) Someone from the band had to come to the message board and yell at her that their songs had nothing to do with themselves and they weren't a couple, they weren't even gay. All i'm saying is there's different layers of interpretation to "art" and not to take things at face value. <br /><br /><br />To me Lady Gaga is theatre. It's like magick, put it out there, she's saying 'i'm aware and this won't happen to me because i am too smart and i know what i'm doing' Like she said, performance.<br /><br />i'm not proofing this sorry if i sound ranty or cunty. I'm with you for the most part...eye of the tigerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-78361224372231204262009-05-30T13:33:14.342-07:002009-05-30T13:33:14.342-07:00How can we know which are mindless puppets, which ...How can we know which are mindless puppets, which are playing along, which are allowing themselves to be manipulated, which are 100% aware and knowingly perpetrating this stuff to manipulate the masses? We can't, I realize not all of them are mindless puppets and I'm sure there are some that enjoy their gilded cage; the limelight/clothes/money/mansions. I don't think you should assume that all of them are onside/in on it, that none of them are victims; I think a lot of them are massively exploited victims and many are programmed slaves (due to the early starts in the industry [and many other hints we can pick up on], they've never really had a choice imo).<br /><br />But for me it isn't about "proving" these individuals are MK'd (I accept I am probably a little hasty when calling some of these performers outright slaves) as we can NEVER really know for sure, it's more about showing the mentality of the men behind the curtain (I don't know why people would think she would have ANY say whatsoever in the content of this video, I assumed the director Jonas [and other behind the scenes producers/corporate handlers] was behind all of it [so her taking the piss out of Britney seems unlikely to me; though Britney references should never be a surprise] and viewed it more as a window into her future, of her inevitable 'breakdown'/downfall), the sociopaths in charge of the media are utterly obsessed with control and manipulation.<br /><br />If I show someone wearing Mickey Mouse/Disney stuff I'm not implying they are products of Disney (again this is about showing the mentality of the men behind the curtain; dressing up their stars in their hugely successful mass-manipulation/programming tool Disney/MM [same with the butterflies/monarch; it doesn't necessarily mean the person pictured with it is definitely a Monarch slave ((though often I suspect that's exactly what it means)), but by showing the constant repetition of these themes I hopefully am making some people realize they are used with conscious intent and are beginning to recognize the mentality of the people behind it [and also showing the dark stuff going on this world which they are heavily involved in i.e. sexual slavery/organized child abuse/programming/etc]).Benjamin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474017723701619280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8428463385743792669.post-59257126426017031152009-05-30T13:01:23.726-07:002009-05-30T13:01:23.726-07:00The blond person she's fake kissing in that screen...The blond person she's fake kissing in that screen cap looks like Andy Warhol. She wants to be seen like Andy Warhol, she has said many times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com